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05/20/2008

Pete sends early Fathers' Day present

by Jeremy Hooper

Of this photo that is running on the Equality California website...

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...Peter LaBarbera today says the following:

Now look at the “gay daddies” propaganda photo... What emotions does it evoke in you? Righteous anger, pity, sorrow, deep frustration? (If your answer is “joy” at this happy “family,” then you are either lying, deceived or you’ve lost your soul, and your mind.) Now explain to all the young people in your extended network of family and friends why God’s perfect plan for “having children” — through true, lasting marriage — is the right way to live, and how even though cheap imitations are possible — or even legal — they will never come close to the real thing.

Hmm. So on the down side, Pete is saying that we are either liars, soulless, mindless, or victims of deceit because we find this photo to happy and joyful. Plus he's saying that our families "will never come close to the real thing." Oh, and he's also implying that the mere existence of our families should fill a casual observe with things like rage, frustration, and pity. That's all very rude.

On the upside? Well, he didn't go one step further and suggest that the two gents are about to actually eat the children. When dealing with the depthless well of cruel illogic that sustains Pete's public existence, we must celebrate any conciliation that he might extend.

Can Homosexual Couples ‘Have Children’? [AFT]

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Your thoughts

If that photo didn't have a caption, it would look just like two heterosexual fathers with their children, who just happen to be standing near one another. And he wants people to see fear and rage and hate in that. What a tool!

His article appears to rant against gay couples who are stealing these beautiful children from their loving (real) heterosexual parents - because the plumbing doesn't work for procreation in same-sex parenting. Which is why I advocate for cloning! It is the way to go, and probably the biggest reason they have moral issues with it. ;)

But, he did admit that same-sex parents can love their children - and not in the fava beans and chianti way! Which is a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Dick Mills | May 20, 2008 4:24:46 PM

With a statement like:

"What emotions does it evoke in you? Righteous anger, pity, sorrow, deep frustration?"

it almost seems to me like he is trying to incite people to act out, not just against gay people, but the families of gay people--who may themselves not be gay. It causes a shiver to go down my spine, because as we have seen too often in the past by gay bashers, rhetoric like this is often used as the justification by those who will act out in violence.

Posted by: Rabid Poodle | May 20, 2008 4:34:39 PM

Hmph. I don't miss my soul or my mind, then, especially the hateful bits!

Posted by: GreenEyedLilo | May 20, 2008 4:47:17 PM

Ever since the ruling the bile from these pro Family® sites seems to be getting more and more venomous. I've heard that part of an effective strategy to winning tolerance and acceptance is to show our opponents that we present no threat to the. I wonder if, along those lines, putting a spotlight on this kind of hate makes a similar difference.

Posted by: zortnac | May 20, 2008 4:48:06 PM

Zortnac: Yes, it is absolutely getting more venomous. And yes, it is certainly the guiding principle of this site that highlighting the vitriol is to our advantage.

Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2008 4:53:08 PM

Indeed, G-A-Y. Seeing these kind of hurtful words thrown at families reminds me of the documentary For The Bible Tells Me So, the part towards the end where one family emotionally responds to the harm that Focus on the Family does to their family through their words and their influence. Even if, for the sake of argument, you try to approach Peter's words from the perspective of someone who is trying to do good, there is still not an ounce of compassion to be found in what he has written, beyond shallow face-value of the word itself.

Compassion would mean acknowledging that no matter how much one thinks a non-traditional family doesn't cut it as "the real thing," those families none-the-less *still* exist, and the people in those families, like everyone else, can be hurt by hateful words.

I don't think Peter understands his opponents on a human level; there is simply no empathic connection here. All that exists is a reckless disregard for same-sex couples, their children, and the dignity of their family. I think, what comes through clearly, are the insults and cruel words of a man seeking catharsis because things haven't turned out like he wanted to. Bah, I'm done ranting.

Posted by: zortnac | May 20, 2008 5:34:28 PM

I sent this to Peter after reading his post:

“Now look at the “gay daddies” propaganda photo again. What emotions does it evoke in you? Righteous anger, pity, sorrow, deep frustration? (If your answer is “joy” at this happy “family,” then you are either lying, deceived or you’ve lost your soul, and your mind.)”

Are you really that bitter that the world we live in isn’t the Christian paradise you want it to be? Children have been reared in many different family make-ups since the dawn of time i.e. children raised by single mothers, single fathers, aunts, uncles, grandmothers and grandfathers and the main thing any child needs is love, security, and a sense of belonging.

Yes children raised by both a father & a mother is perfect model – but regardless there are perfectly health alternatives to that model.

You have said many things that I disagree with but to basically show no real compassion on the many happy well unadjusted children being raised in homes that aren’t the perfect model is just down right soulless and mean.

Posted by: Alonzo | May 20, 2008 5:45:40 PM

I have an idea why doesn't Pete go even further and say that heterosexual men should beat up and kill gay men or women with children or kidnap them to "protect the children" why do they only stop at demonization why not straight up advocate taking children away from gay parents and placing them in the system?

Posted by: adam kautz | May 20, 2008 8:23:40 PM

Gotta save something for the encore, Adam.

Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2008 8:29:31 PM

Peter's words, (If your answer is “joy” at this happy “family,” then you are either lying, deceived or you’ve lost your soul, and your mind.) put the lie to his oft-spouted, "love the sinner, hate the sin" schtick. If you say someone has lost their soul and/or mind, you're not "loving the sinner."

Posted by: Jamie | May 21, 2008 9:30:49 AM

It's been a few years since I took critical thinking in college, but I remember that Appeal to Ignorance and Appeal to Emotion were both on the list of common fallacies. Labarbera and Barber both use these quite often in baiting homophobia and fear of the unknown in their readers. These guys have been relegated to using these types of arguments because reason and facts concerning gay people don't attract nearly as many funadmentalist dollars to their respective ministries.

Posted by: Larry | May 21, 2008 2:44:55 PM

It's adorable. And anyone how has met a family like this, KNOWS and celebrates the love in this picture.

Posted by: banshiii | May 21, 2008 4:39:47 PM

duh, the man is full of self hate.

Posted by: banshiii | May 21, 2008 4:41:52 PM

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