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07/23/2008

Elaine to public: Don't ask, don't tell, just financially support

by Jeremy Hooper

Donnelly-1Elaine Donnelly, who literally makes her career fighting to keep gays out of the military, is less-than-happy with a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll which indicates that 75% of Americans support a gay-inclusive armed forces. And why is Elaine so upset? Well, in part because she thinks that even though all citizens support the military through their tax dollars, only those who are currently enlisted should be free to weigh in on matters of military policy. This from One News Now:

Donnelly says such a poll should only have been given to members of the military -- not the civilian population as a whole.

"Most [people] do not understand what military culture and discipline and morale is all about," she continues. "This is sort of like asking Americans what they think about issues currently being debated by the Canadian Parliament. This is not an informed audience."

Wait a minute -- asking the American public a question about an entity that they financially support, that they depend on for protection, and that they (or their loved ones) could eventually decide to join is like asking them about the legislative matters of a country of which they hold no citizenship? Wow Elaine, what's that based on, the "No Basic Logic Unless You've Endured Basic Training" clause? We must have missed that lesson in Basic Democracy 101, as we were too busy listening to the parts about taxation, representation, and everyone's right to have their voice heard.

Be sure to look for further logic from Ms. Donnelly, wherein we predict she'll next assert that only those who've directly worked in the Oval Office should be allowed to vote for President.

Homosexual military service subject of latest poll [ONN]

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Um, putting aside the fact that she's being completely intellectually dishonest. All the latest polling OF THE MILITARY finds majority support for gays serving openly in the military.

The dumb harpy needs to be called on that.

Posted by: Evan | Jul 23, 2008 1:18:55 PM

As she clutches her pearls, gritting her teeth and stomping around in the Center for Military Manliness' offices, Ms. Donnelly should keep in mind that the U.S. is not a military state. The military does what We The People tell it to, not the other way around, and even the Commander-in-Chief is a CIVILLIAN.

Posted by: Larry | Jul 23, 2008 1:54:45 PM

I think that the dissatisfaction that the general population feels is more substantial than that. When 58 Arabic Language Specialists are drummed out of the armed forces due to the fact that they're gay, and at a time when their expertise is crucial, it's appalling to say the least. Not to mention all of the other valuable and highly trained men and women who have felt the ax of DADT.

While it is true that the American people are footing the bill for the military, we also very much depend on the military for our defense. So, my take on the backlash against DADT is that the American people are tired of a policy that is weakening our military by baselessly discharging personnel who are filling vital roles.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jul 23, 2008 2:03:11 PM

Dick: Well yea, the American public has a whole host of issues as to why they'd like to see DADT stricken. But the point is that not only does the entire country have a right to weigh in on military matters -- we have a DUTY to do so!

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 23, 2008 2:06:49 PM

"Most [people] do not understand what military culture and discipline and morale is all about," she continues. "This is sort of like asking Americans what they think about issues currently being debated by the Canadian Parliament. This is not an informed audience."

Elaine has never served in the military, nor does she hold any other qualifications that would allow her to be the head of anything regarding military readiness, so it's hilarious that she thinks it's okay for her to weigh in on issues she knows nothing about, but it's not okay for the rest of the country to do the same.

Posted by: Jason D | Jul 23, 2008 2:15:33 PM

For some reason, this reminds me of my recent thoughts I had about some comments I heard some conservative friends of mine make expressing their annoyance with reports on polls from the UK, France, and Germany concerning their preference for our next American president. However, in all honesty, I often feel like European voters are much more informed on American politics than the American people themselves because they realize just how much decisions have a way of affecting those all around the globe. In contrast, we generally have no knowledge of foreign politics (already having little knowledge of our domestic affairs). The only argument I could really generate in our defense would concern the sheer numbers of foreign states and the inability to identify a single one of them as decidedly more prominent than the others and deserving of our increased attention. Forgive me for spinning ever wider on this swirling tangent.

Posted by: Timm | Jul 23, 2008 3:14:01 PM

Elaine Donnelly's logic is absurd. People should have no opinion or right to speak on matters they are not directly involved in?!

I laugh out loud at some of the things she "knows" about the military. She just doesn't want this to go away because it is her bread and butter.

She and Phyllis Schlafly would make a lovely couple.

The minute Elaine Donnelly can match my 20 years of military service and my families' 74 combined years service, I may listen to her conversation on what the military thinks. The military serves the public.


Posted by: Mary, U.S. Army (Ret.) | Jul 23, 2008 3:29:15 PM

I started to hear conflicting results in regards to the poll.

Most websites are saying the poll was a sample of American civilians However I located this and it seems the poll was of actually U.S. military personnel:

http://www.sldn.org/templates/press/record.html?record=3358

Posted by: Alonzo | Jul 23, 2008 5:06:43 PM

Alonzo,
Your link goes to an article from 2006. The one that Elaine is referring to is from this year, and was not given to the public.

Posted by: Jason D | Jul 24, 2008 8:36:53 AM

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