Reminder: FRC panel underway (*Updated with full video from panel)
Just a reminder: The anti-gay Family Research Council is currently (as of 10AM) holding a panel discussing the California decision. This is the one on which they have actually invited a gay activist to appear!
Watch at this link:
**UPDATE: FRC has now posted the whole thing, so we're going to get rid of our old audio updates and just give you the vid:
ugh .. windows xp? I can never get the audio files to play.
Posted by: gary | Jul 10, 2008 2:13:56 PM
Oh, is that true, Gary? How annoying!
Th files can be accessed at the following links, if you really want to listen:
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 10, 2008 2:20:29 PM
yeah, it is unfortunately true. And yes, I really want to hear this mess.
Thank You for the links!
Posted by: gary | Jul 10, 2008 2:32:23 PM
Hmm...well it's probably more the browser you are using than it is XP. My XP laptop running Firefox can load them just fine.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 10, 2008 3:02:33 PM
Chai Feldblum, unfortunately comes across as confrontational and abrasive. . .given the environment she gets kudos.
Hasson should be a little bewildered, because he makes the case. Bringing up quakers who were a 2% minority and standing up for their rights on persecution grounds.
Stanton Collett pulls a bait and switch tactic on fertility. . .typical. . my question: "Doctor or a Minister?" . . .perhaps it's time to read the hippocratic oath. Same BS with pharmacists up here in WA.
Comparing fertilization to the death penalty?
And then the whole thing just disinigrates into the same "woe is me, christians are being bashed by the "homo-agenda".
Posted by: gary | Jul 10, 2008 4:21:22 PM
You really think so? I didn't find her either abrasive or confrontation.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 10, 2008 4:30:04 PM
I think that Chai made her point very well. We need to discuss how we can "live together" rather than simply telling each other to "get over it."
I think, though, that she under-emphasizes the proclivity of many on the religious side to say "fuck off and die" rather than "get over it." That is effectively what they say when they attempt to usurp my basic civil rights in the name of their religious freedom.
And, to be fair, there are many on our side who express that same sentiment, but who would happily cease and desist in a more accepting environment.
Posted by: Dick Mills | Jul 10, 2008 4:56:35 PM
Well . . .perhaps it's the recording, but yeah. . .that was my initial reaction.
Maybe "confrontational" wasn't the best choice of words. Given the audience. Defensive might be a better term.
Don't get me wrong, I think she did a great job. She made the point, but in context with this "panel" I think it fell on deaf ears. . .she sounded angry, and the moderator sounded patronizing.
I seriously hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: gary | Jul 10, 2008 5:35:53 PM
For the video:
Chai's speech starts at 48:07
She was very pleasant, and you could tell she really cared about religious people's beliefs. She was also very animated.
I know Chai reads this blog, so I'll save the things I didn't like so much. Overall, she did a good job. Much better than I would have done. :)
Something interesting: at 57:20 there is a hard take right when she is about to make a point about the California ruling. Hmmmm...
Posted by: Jake | Jul 10, 2008 7:20:05 PM
Okay, I've finally been able to watch the video.
I was wrong. . .very wrong, and I apologize.
Chai was personable, courageous and impressive. We owe her a debt of gratitude.
Posted by: gary | Jul 10, 2008 9:00:39 PM
and to the frc's credit, I don't think they did any creative editing.
Posted by: gary | Jul 10, 2008 9:21:56 PM
"and to the frc's credit, I don't think they did any creative editing."
Agreed, Gary. Actually, the whole thing was uncharacteristically civil for FRC.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 10, 2008 9:37:24 PMcomments powered by Disqus