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09/10/2008

Video: Palin's pastor acknowledges 'ex-gay' promotion

by Jeremy Hooper

In a new interview with Fox News' Greta Van Susteren, Sarah Palin's pastor, Larry Kroon, weighs in on why his church is promoting the Love Won Out "ex-gay" conference. "Ex-gay" part begins around the 2:30 mark:

Kind of an odd clip. More than anything, it shows how little is understood about the "ex-gay" community's work, and how much of their falsely compassionate talk is accepted at face value. Because the simple fact is that despite the opinion and advice of credible science, programs like Love Won Out want homosexuality to be seen as a "struggle." And by even giving lip service to the idea that homosexuality is something which someone "wrestles," Pastor Kroon is demonstrating that he has bought into it to some sort of degree.

While Pastor Kroon might view the decision to promote Love Won Out as a peaceful way to heighten understanding about homosexuality, those of us who follow this kind of work know that the truth and potential harm behind these programs runs much deeper. We know that behind the compassionate mask lies a movement whose true goal is to keep gay people seen as "fixable." We know that this movement is intrinsically attached to the movement that fights against our rights. And we understand that it's not about whether or not the group uses one particular phrase like "pray away the gay," or whether or not they deserve to be branded as a "dog and pony show." The point that matters is that they are peddling a "cure" that has not one ounce of credible backing. A "cure" that keeps the gay community stigmatized as in need of a "fixing." A "cure" that is linked to faith rather than biology. A "cure" that deserves every last ounce of scrutiny that it has received!

We have never denied that Love Won Out puts up a nice, pretty, compassionate front. But we will never apologize for lifting off the mask. And why? Because we care deeply about not only our own queer lives, but also those of the millions of young people whose potential to live well-adjusted lives is being threatened by this stealth movement!

Gov. Sarah Palin's Current and Past Pastors 'On the Record' [Fox News]

***Oh, and Ms. Van Susteren: What's with jumping so quickly to say that "the media's gotten this one wrong"!? What the media has said is exactly what Pastro Kroon admits: That his church ran literature promoting LWO!!

**Here's a recent "ex-gay" ad (Not LWO, but with overlapping speakers). Decide for yourself whether or not this movement wants gays to look like broken beings:

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Your thoughts

Love the advert at the end. "A fresh start. It's like a brand new day! SHE LOVES THE COCK." Though, honestly, I think it's very telling how fucking isn't explicitly mentioned in the ad whatsoever. Bury it down beneath empty platitudes, prayer, and Christian pop music. But sexuality's going to catch up with you, kids. You can't force it down or run away from it. You can't change who and what your body wants. Tragically, I think that's what all these closeted preachers and politicians and "ex-gays" already know. That's what every one of these attendees have to confront and rationalize for themselves at some point: the knowledge that the can only appear to change, that they can only change their behavior, not their core being.

Posted by: Brendan D. | Sep 10, 2008 11:37:01 AM

I wonder if the actress knew what the video was for, just look mopey on the futon and then walk over to the window, part the curtains look up and smile...

I think it would be a more effective advert for Blinds to Go.

Posted by: John Ozed | Sep 10, 2008 12:52:52 PM

PFLAG to BE THERE!! In support of sanity and good parenting. This from 365 News.

Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays intends to offer support Saturday outside an Anchorage conference of the controversial “Love Won Out” conference in Anchorage.

AS WE ALL KNOW. and I hope the MSM picks up on this:

“Families never win at Love Won Out,” said Jane Schlittler, president of PFLAG’s Anchorage, Alaska chapter.
“The conference’s organizers maliciously target often well-meaning parents who are dealing with a difficult issue in their lives, and in the process put their kids’ well-being at risk. Make no mistake: There is far more ‘preying’ than ‘praying’ taking place at these meetings, and far more harming than healing in the doctrine of Love Won Out,” she said.
Critics of the so-called ex-gay movement say groups like “Love Won Out” use outmoded medical theories and radical religious beliefs.
In 1990, the American Psychological Association (APA) stated that scientific evidence does not show that conversion therapy works and that it can do more harm than good.

Posted by: LOrion | Sep 10, 2008 2:03:26 PM

I swear, when I saw the woman in the commercial moping around dejected, and then looking out the window with a blissful smile on her face, all I could think of was that old commercial for "Correctal".

Posted by: Bill S | Sep 10, 2008 5:55:06 PM

It's true, she looks about as miserable as one can look. Which is what makes the "ex-gay" community's repeated denials of their true mission even more annoying. It's obvious to anyone with a quarter of a brain that they are trying their damnedest to make gays look hurt, dejected, and broken.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Sep 10, 2008 6:36:00 PM

I actually feel kinda bad for the pastors who send their flock off to these conferences. They probably have never sat one-on-one with a gay Christian and tried to understand exactly what orientation is all about. They just accept the default teaching of their brand of Christianity.

It's FOTF that annoys me. They know better. Fryrear and her buddies know that what they are peddling isn't true. They know that their claims are bogus, that they aren't changing orientations, and that the crap they spread about what "causes" teh Gay is complete and utter hogwash.

Yet they are willing to set up conferences and just flat-out lie to the attendees. And because they are "Christians" the decent folks in the pew - be they parent or pastor - accept it as truth. They are almost as much a victim of FOTF's carnival mirrors as are gay folk.

Posted by: Timothy | Sep 10, 2008 8:38:46 PM

The girl was probably smiling at a huge glowing Prozac pill outside the window - because no gay person goes looking all depressed like THAT simply because they're gay.

Even if you ARE depressed and moping around the house like this girl, the LAST group of people you need sinking their talons into you, and their leeching tentacles onto your wallet is groups like LWO, and anything religion-based.

Like Ursula the sea witch, evangelical types thrive off "the miserable, lonely and depressed".

Posted by: Scott | Sep 10, 2008 9:12:46 PM

Isn't that what Focus on the Family does: turn these people into a dog and pony show? That pastor doesn't seem to understand the error he has made.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 14, 2008 8:12:46 AM

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