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01/30/2009

Audio: 'I think people should live and let...oh wait a minute, someone just farted in a gay-friendly manner. Grab my torch'

by Jeremy Hooper

The American Family Association fights against every gay rights protection under the sun. They also attack anyone who even somewhat supports gay people, using the most hurtful of words and tactics. Like, for instance, back in 2005 when the group's Randy Sharp accused Walgreens of supporting the Gay Games so that the pharmacy could "increase sales by helping drive events that result in the need for the company's drugs." Or like when they boycott a soup company for simply advertising in a gay news magazine, and then encourage their followers to stop supporting that same corporation's educational programs simply because of the business' free market decision to reach out to serve their gay customers. And you can completely forget out gays in entertainment, as any hint of same-sex affection in TV or film is met with unhinged rage.

We could go on and on with examples; but the bottom line: The AFA does not even begin to use a "live and let live" attitude" when it comes to LGBT people. It's more like a "live like we want you to live, or else we'll make your existence as hard as we possibly can!" mindset.

Alright, now listen to this. This is how the AFA's Tim Wildmon described the AFA's gay stance on yesterday's edition of Mat Staver and Matt Barber's "Liberty Live" talk show:


*Audio source: "Liberty Live" (4-5 ET)

Oh those poor "attacked" evangelicals. Basically they can say and do whatever they want against us, just as long as they shroud those attacks (no quotes necessary) in "love the sinner, hate the sin" sound bites. And when we object, we are not standing up for ourselves. No, no -- we are big, bad, bully "name-callers" who are destroying everything good and holy.

Ugh, spare me the anti-fairy fairy tale. The truth is that if there is any group on the American landscape who purposely and deliberately meddles in our lives, it is the AFA! What we want is to not have to give one iota of thought to their organizational existence. What they want is to browbeat every aspect of society into either going solely hetero or going out of business/ off the air/ out of the church/ out of the public eye/ out of the civil marriage license line/ out of the front of the bus. Their entire functional existence revolves around being America's anti-gay school marm!

Seriously, Tim Wildmon: Your organization's mask went down before Reagan even left office, so you can just stop with the "we're not anti-gay" stuff. In fact, judging by how few Americans are now buying it, that line seems to be one of your few true boycott successes.

**Oh, and for the record: This site never calls anyone "haters" or "bigots." We don't need to.

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Your thoughts

The Wildmons and the AFA are painful sores on the ass of society.

Posted by: Greg in Mpls | Jan 30, 2009 3:45:12 PM

Jeremy - it might be just me but I have a feeling that the AFA would love to see me [all of us] dead because I'm/we are gay - - "Our way or no way" is their motto! We are just an inconvenience to them. And to think I was created by the same God they were! What WILL HE say when they stand before him - I'm not afraid to stand before him - I'm living the way he wants me to.

Posted by: tom | Jan 30, 2009 3:57:26 PM

Wow! Tim Wildmon loves me, he really, really loves me. I feel all warm and fuzzy now.

Posted by: SammySeattle | Jan 30, 2009 4:32:39 PM

tom, this is news to you? Jerry Falwell and Anita Bryant were both calling for our extermination before it became unfashionable to do so.

Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Jan 30, 2009 4:51:11 PM

Its amazing how they always claim they stand for biblical morality when they themselves do not practice it. I can point out passages of the bible they simply ignore (not to mention ignoring the 9th commandment of bearing false witness) and then they self-righteously turn around and demand that we live according to their interpretation of scripture which they worship. There is a BIG difference in studying scripture and worshiping scripture. Most I have found in the AFA mindset worship scripture.

Its no wonder organizations like AFA and people that tow that same line are now being laughed and ridiculed at not only by non-Christians but other Christians as well. They simply have a sick need to force those that do not believe as they do to get in line with their thinking and they are willing to do anything (lie) in order to achieve that goal. If you do not tow their line, they will bring you down anyway they can. He have all seen this in both their actions and in their words

People are finally beginning to slowly wake up to these displaced beliefs. Scripture is supposed to be studied with your heart and mind, guided by the Holy Spirit.

They are only guided by their prejudices.

Posted by: Ken R | Jan 30, 2009 4:54:20 PM

Wildmon has pretty much proven that he is in this fight to get everything that he can for himself by squeezing-dry anyone who will support him. His "hate the sinner, love to hate" rhetoric has one purpose: to inflame the basest of emotions of the hordes who hate us. And, make no mistake, it is all as subterfuge to cover his tawdry reach-around to grab those ass pockets that hold their wallets.

That he strengthens and emboldens the hatred of others toward us... that is just a bonus for him.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 30, 2009 6:14:25 PM

Don't they know lying is against the Bible?

Posted by: Buffy | Jan 31, 2009 1:36:36 AM

Ken R - excellent comment. I've never heard the "worshipping of scripture" idea. It definitely fits. *makes a mental note to add this to her arsenal*

The AFA is quite a joke these days. ATWT's "open-mouthed" gay kiss last April: "warning-content is replusive!" LOL! We fans call that the "What-about-the-ICE/AFA kiss."

Personally, I am growing weary of being deemed less of a Christian and uneducated in scripture because I don't believe as they do.

I actually had some fun with one guy on christianpost.com who not only questioned my faith, but made the assumption that I am gay and practice the dreaded "gay lifestyle." I'm not, but I am also not afraid of the label, so in subsequent posts I made no effort to prove or disprove his assumptions.

So his last question to me is, "Are you married or just practicing the sin of fornication?" My response: "Not that it's any of YOUR business, but the answer is neither."

All the while he's saying he's not judging me. Right.

Posted by: Bonnie_Half-Elven | Jan 31, 2009 11:03:48 PM

I swear, some one should sue them for forcing religious views upon us. Really, it is our right to choose our religion. It is not THEIR right to force theirs on us.
Now if only I was older/had money/was a lawyer...

Posted by: Clicky the Fox | Jan 31, 2009 11:37:49 PM

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