Back for another Phil: FOF staffer returns to daytime TV
Back in October, we raised a bit of the proverbial stink when "The Dr. Phil Show" booked Focus on the Family's Glenn on a program to challenge an actual doctor on the subject of gender identity. Because, well, let's face it -- having a bias-motivated FOF staffer challenge a real doctor on LGBT subject matter is kind of like having Dr. Seuss challenge a credible nutritionist on the health benefits of green eggs and ham. The point and the counterpoint are not an even match.
Plus the show also gave out Focus on the Fam's website as a place where folks could go to learn more about gender identity (which FOF calls "gender confused"), with virtually no critical eye given to or full disclosure given about the organization's biased work. So we were upset not only for the sake of LGBT activism. Instead, we felt ourselves visualizing the countless impressionable parents who were led to the site by Dr. Phil, finding there a bevy of misguided information about how to "correct" a child.
Well guess what? Next week, Stanton is going back to the show. This from FOF:
In October, Dr. Phil featured Focus on the Family's Glenn T. Stanton on his popular TV talk show. On Tuesday, Jan. 13, Stanton will return to the show. (Check local listings.)
Stanton, the director of family formation studies at Focus, will again tackle the difficult topic of children who identify more with the opposite sex.
Good News: Dr. Phil Welcomes Focus on the Family Expert [FOF CitizenLink]
And this time he's not alone -- "ex-gay" proponent Joseph Nicolosi is also booked as a guest!
However, there is positive here. We have a sneaking feeling that this time, possibly because of the controversy generated by the first appearance, things are going to play out a little differently. Judging by this, a recount of the 12/18 taping that comes from Glenn Stanton's personal blog, a critical eye will this time be on full display:
Why are the loving people so hateful?
Taped my second episode of a Dr. Phil show yesterday in Hollywood. They put you up in a very nice hotel and schlep you around in limos, not a bad life for a day or so. I am very impressed with Dr. Phil's team, and him as a man and professional.
This second show was on the same topic as the first, on gender confused kids, and I was on this time with a good and long-time friend, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi.
It was essentially 40 minutes of two people -- a mother of a young boy living as a girl and a UCLA professor -- making up things about what Joe and I believed and then attacking them. The mom spewed nothing but hate and contempt for the both of us, folks she knew very little about or what we actually believed. All she knew was we weren't affirming of her decision to let her pre-adolescent boy live as a girl and that was enough for her to respond with sarcastic comments at every turn, before we even got a chance to answer her previous accusation.
Your faith in thoughtful dialogue, if even disagreeable, is stronger some days than others. This was not one of them.
- glenn stanton. 7:01:02 AM
12/18/08 [Glenn Stanton]
Hmm... the pro-LGBT side made stuff up? Considering that Glenn and Joseph back a movement whose entire existence is based on only the "science" that is convenient to their cause, we're pretty sure that what they would consider to be "made up" is what most of us would say "made sense." But of course we'll have to wait until Tuesday to see if the show really we'll be the "Good News" that FOF touted in today's release, or if it'll be the gay community who gets the positive news that the affront of October's ill-advised booking has been somewhat corrected. Try to contain yourself.
And after all, we all know Mom's arent's 'Experts'... HA!
Posted by: LOrion | Jan 9, 2009 7:39:55 PM
May I ask exactly what our agents in Hollywood are doing for us? Besides sitting on their lazy butts drinking appletinis while the drag queen next door is having her wardrobe shredded by the local Gentrification Society.
Posted by: Wilberforce | Jan 9, 2009 7:40:18 PM
The mom spewed nothing but hate and contempt for the both of us, folks she knew very little about or what we actually believed.
Hmm, why should he be upset by that? After all, isn't that what they (fof) do quite often in the guise of "science"?
just my 2 cents
Posted by: aj | Jan 9, 2009 7:45:06 PM
"Your faith in thoughtful dialogue, if even disagreeable, is stronger some days than others. This was not one of them."
There are just soooooooo many things wrong with that statement coming out of the mouth of any of those lying liar fundies. The only way that their deception works is in the complete and utter lack of thoughtful dialogue.
Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 11, 2009 8:02:34 PM
From his co-written book “Marriage on Trial”:
“How This Book Will Equip You To Make The Case For Marriage:
Can we make the gay family just as socially necessary as the natural family?…To do so is to deconstruct humanity.”
Thoughtful dialogue? Yes Glenn, let us sup…
Posted by: Emproph | Jan 12, 2009 7:24:12 AM
I have never seen a whole episode of Dr. Phil before. Dr. Phil is of course pro-homosexual, as are most of the talk hosts. I agree with Focus on the Family regarding GID, that what they must do is cure GID or @least better treat it, not maim patients to make them artificial members of another sex & that science has been sadly wasted mutilating men & women to make them what they're not & they happen because the knowledge is there how to do it.
I also wanted to make final comments on the Matthew Shepard murder case of 1998 & what I believe the punishment should've been incl. the circumstances of the case, w/o the propaganda that has been done on this.
Before getting to this, let me say that there was a case in 1993, where ABC News reported of a case where an American Marine killed a Japanese citizen in Okinawa after the man allegedly made unwanted homosexual advances towards him. After this man's death, there were protests in Japan against the presence of American Marines in 1993. Now I don't know the circumstances nor the outcome & thus can speculate. If the man propositioned the Marine in a restroom & the American Marine hit him in the head & killed him, then while it wouldn't excuse it, it would put comprehension into why the Marine did it. There's a time & place for everything. The bathroom is not the place for propositions. It's 1 thing to be in a bar or a guest @ some1's home & be propositioned (w/o being touched). In those cases, you simply answer "no, not interested" & then leave. However, the bathroom is there to pee, poo & washup & thus not the place for propositions. As noted, I don't know the facts surrounding the American Marine's case & if any1 knows the facts, then please print them.
Okinawa was a place of bloody fighting during WW2. The Japanese of course used Kamikazes during the last months of the war. But in Okinawa, the Japanese also used young boys in the battle, incl. in suicide missions. There were other horrors such as Japanese women & children jumping off of cliffs to commit familial suicides. The fighting in Okinawa was indeed bloody for both sides & wars are indeed bloody & incomprehensible.
Now to clarify the facts of the Matthew Shepard case. I read the facts & wanted to clarify what I had written before on this. Both AJ McKinney & Russel Henderson, 2 men with Meth & drug problems intended to rob Matthew Shepard who also had drug problems, for drugs & money. AJ McKinney had a past record for assault & battery, involving fighting & hitting others during Meth rages. When AJ McKinney was a boy, he was a victim of homosexual rapes & this messed up his mind. Russel Henderson also came from a broken family. His mom Cindy Dixon would be killed in Jan. 1999 in Laramie after she was robbed & beaten by a drunken man after leaving the bar (drunk related crime) & would die in a hospital of hypothermia-the same thing which killed Matthew Shepard & the circumstances are almost identical.
But what happened that night to Matthew Shepard? Both men picked him up from a bar with the intent to rob him. While they were in the truck, Matthew Shepard grabbed AJ McKinney's groin. This drove AJ McKinney in a rage & he beat up Matthew Shepard by hitting him in the head with a gun. Russel Henderson did not hit Matthew Shepard, but after the beating, it was Russel Henderson who tied up Matthew Shepard & Matthew Shepard after being found, died several days later of hypothermia.
It's understandable why AJ McKinney did what he did. Matthew Shepard did touch AJ McKinney's groin against his will. No, it doesn't excuse AJ McKinney's deed of killing him, but keep in mind that AJ McKinney was homosexually raped when he was a young boy & it messed his mind. Matthew Shepard had no right to touch AJ McKinney's groin to start with. AJ McKinney had no right to continue beating up Matthew Shepard with a gun, but given that he was on Meth, when people are in Meth rages, they can do crazy things. I don't believe that AJ McKinney intended to kill Matthew Shepard & it wasn't pre-planned. The jury rejected the prosecutor's claim that it was pre-planned.
AJ McKinney IMO should have gotten a prison sentence of 25 years to life in prison & Russel Henderson should have gotten 15 years in prison. AJ McKinney deserved more time because he inflicted the blows & he had a past record of hitting others during Meth rages.
With assaults & batteries against homosexuals, the punishment must be based on the facts & circumstances of each case. It's 1 thing to plan to go out & beat up homosexuals, but it's another thing to hit after there's been provocation. If some1 is @ a restroom & gets propositioned by a homosexual & in reaction, he hits the homosexual, while he still doesn't have a right to hit him, the punishment for that would be less than if he beats him up for no reason.
The Matthew Shepard case would be different if his attack had been planned, but that wasn't the case. I realize that Matthew Shepard's parents may not understand why their son was killed, but Matthew Shepard assumed risks when he used drugs & got involved with drug users & as noted, he had no right to touch AJ McKinney's groin, though it doesn't rationalize his death. Yes, what AJ McKinney & Russel Henderson did was bad, but they're not the most evil people to have ever existed. They were 2 troubled men who came from broken families. What happened to Matthew Shepard can not be compared to the Virginia Tech Massacre, because the 32 victims of this massacre did nothing to provoke their attack but were killed by a deranged gunman.
Posted by: missionaryway | Jan 12, 2009 7:24:13 AM
OK - I couldn't get through all that garbage above from missionary. The point is, Dr. Phil is a gigantic ass who shouldn't be giving advice to ANYBODY.
Posted by: Greg in Mpls | Jan 12, 2009 12:48:39 PM
GID or Gender Confusion is a disorder where psychologists & the medical profession rather than trying to find the cure for GID, have been collaborating with it & maiming patients to make them artificial members of the opposite sex. Sex change maimings happen, mainly because they know how to do it.
Dr. Phil has had his problems with lawsuits. Didn't he settle lawsuits over his weight loss programs? Also, Britney Spears family got on Dr. Phil's case & accused him of self-promotion with regard to his involvement with her. He among others were speculating whether Britney Spears was bipolar. Finally, music is best when it comes out for the 1st time. You can download songs on Youtube, both old & new. I don't buy CD anymore, because I like music when it comes out the 1st time & hearing the same song years later just doesn't have the same beauty as when it came out the 1st time.
Posted by: missionaryway | Jan 12, 2009 8:25:19 PM
"Finally, music is best when it comes out for the 1st time. You can download songs on Youtube, both old & new. I don't buy CD anymore, because I like music when it comes out the 1st time & hearing the same song years later just doesn't have the same beauty as when it came out the 1st time."
missionaryway, I think I speak for everyone when I say: "WHAT?!?!?!"
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 12, 2009 8:27:15 PM
Curious missionary that the two murderers of Matthew Shepard made this claim AFTER they were convicted of the crime. I guess the words of criminals mean more than that of gays, huh.
Posted by: a. mcewen | Jan 13, 2009 12:43:49 PM
A.Mcewen, yes, Matthew Shepard is dead & thus can't give his version. Yes, it's the word of 2 convicted criminals, but it's not like they said anything to justify their deed -actually it was AJ McKinney who did the deed. They still admitted their crime & both men plead guilty. It's the job of juries to determine whether the accounts are to be believed & the jury after hearing both the prosecutor & defense's version rejected that it was pre-planned.
What must be noted is that the interview the 2 men gave to 20/20 happened in Nov. 2004, 6 years later. Their account is credible & even the detective who investigated this crime has not disputed their version. There are no other known eyewitnesses. What happened to Matthew Shepard is bad, but Matthew Shepard is like a zebra that swam & drowned in crocodiled waters in the Serengeti-a drug user who got beaten & killed by another drug user & in the drug world, this happens. Yes, it's bad that it happened, but go to L.A., San Francisco or any other city where drugs are more common than they are in Laramie & you'll find plenty of crimes like this, only that most of the victims are straight.
AJ McKinney & Russel Henderson are 2 troubled men esp. AJ McKinney. If AJ McKinney had not been homosexually raped when he was a boy & if Russel Henderson had not come from a broken family, would both men have turned out the way they did, with Meth problems, getting into fights with other drug users which finally resulted in a man getting killed & being sent to prison ? A. Mcewen, I see no reason to doubt AJ McKinney's words on this & how it damaged him.
In the interview, AJ McKinney & Russel Henderson both said that they had friends who were homos & that they're sorry that Matthew Shepard was killed. Now whether they're sorry they did it or whether they're just saying it with the hope of getting out of prison someday is another matter. But as far as the circumstances surrounding Matthew Shepard's death, I believe both men's account is true.
With Dr. Phil, does any1 know what finally became of the mess he entanged himself with Britney Spears's family after they accused him of self-promotion when he raised speculation whether Britney Spears was bipolar? E.T. has had Dr. Phil on the show with regard to treating 2 women with anorexia, even after Dr. Phil settled lawsuits over his weight loss programs. Dr. Phil has been accused of self-promotion, but isn't that what talk show hosts usu. are? Cristina Saralegui of Univision is a self-promoter. Many have accused Oprah Winfrey, Bill O'Reilly & others of self-promotion. Phil Donahue IMO was the best talk show host as he fairly presented all sides of a topic, though he had his own biases.
Oprah Winfrey used to be a good talk show hostess but since the 1990s, she has become a self-promoter & an ideologue who usu. only has guests who support her views. Finally as far as music, I was only speaking from how I like music-when it comes out the 1st time & if I hear the same song again & again, I don't find it as beautiful as when it 1st came out. Not every1 shares my thinking, but I was only speaking for myself & those who share my taste for music.
Posted by: missionaryway | Jan 14, 2009 12:11:35 PM
On a final note regarding music, the best singers are those who are creative. Sex & good looks can only get you so far because it's talent that finally matters. Female musicians do the best. Yes, Britney Spears is talented & has good looks. Beyonce Knowles is talented & has done well with & w/o Destiny's Child. I don't care much for Christina Aguilera. Lady Gaga is prettier than Christina Aguilera though she does look like Christina Aguilera & her voice is similar. Time will tell whether Lady Gaga is a long term success or just has fame & fortune once before disappearing because she was seen as a Christina Aguilera clone. Now they play some country music outside of country stations such as Faith Hill, Tim McGraw & Shania Twain.
With old musicians, I just don't understand how people can keep listening to the same songs by the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Eagles again & again w/o finally saying that the lyrics are now boring. Sure those musicians were great when they came out the 1st time, but I find it dull to hear the same song so many times which is why I don't buy CD anymore. Haven't ratings for radio stations which play old songs have gone down, since you can find old songs on YouTube considering most people have Internet access? Anyhow, those are my music thoughts.
Posted by: missionaryway | Feb 18, 2009 6:52:35 PM
Actually this is the final note regarding music & TV shows. With music whether on the radio or YouTube, I could listen to Nickelback & then a few minutes later listen to the Bee Gees & then listen to Akon & Kanye West. I like music both old & new. I don't care much for country music. Some of Faith Hill's & Shania Twain's songs don't sound country which is why some of them are played on non-country stations.
Has country music ever used a sitar? Does any1 know if R&B has ever used a sitar ? Chris Brown has said that he is sorry for hitting Rihanna, & the punishment must be fair. Music alot of times has mixed genres.
With TV shows, you can now see old episodes of Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock presents online. The old TV shows are the best. Other great shows were Superman (from the 1950s), Gunsmoke, Daniel Boone, Lassie (from the 1950s), Incredible Hulk, I Love Lucy & Happy Days. The 1950s-70s were the best decades for TV. I don't care for the new TV shows & I've never seen a whole episode of American Idol. Pay per view is greed & people must boycott Cable, but Cable has become powerful because the consumers have permitted it. XM Radio & Pay Per listen radio (sattelite radio) is a bad idea & again, it's about greed.
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