Dols claims (A) that he was 'Milk' boy, (B) that he's no longer buying the cow
A man by the name of Gerard Dols (pic.) has popped up in connection with Harvey Milk before. A few months back, he did a chat with the Concerned Women for America wherein he talked about his friendship with the slain gay rights leader, condemned "the gay lifestyle™," and told of how he traded in his desire to date guys because of a desire to date Jesus:
(*Audio Source: CWA)
So as you can hear, there has been no dearth of ill talk, with Mr. Dols aligning himself with the reliably anti-Milk ilk to retroactively bash everything Harvey stood for. There have also been other instances of Dols popping up on the internet to lash out against the "militant gays," and even liberals in general (you can Google them). However nobody, including Dols himself, has connected his story to the wheelchair-bound boy that is prominently featured in the current Milk movie. Until now that is.
This, a message from Dols, comes from Minneapolis' City Pages:
I am the boy from Richmond, Minnesota. I want to tell you everything in the movie did not happen. It just did not happen. For one, I am disabled, but I was not in a wheel chair at that time. The writer of the book never interviewed me about it. I was born without kneecaps and wore braces as a child.
I was born in 1960. Then on December 12, 1977 I saw a People magazine article about a gay couple in West Hollywood. It was the first time seeing a gay couple. I thought this is my way out. Don Amador and Tony Carlson. I called information to get Amador's number on that day. You can still get the People magazine issue for proof. It's the one that has a guy with a trumpet on the cover. Anyway, I called to his house.
I said to Don Amador, "Hi I need to run away. My family is abusive and I am being smothered. I need to get away. I'm gay and need help." He said that moving here is not an option but he has a friend named Harvey Milk who just got elected that I could talk to.
Harvey Milk came on the phone. We talked for an hour. He felt I should get out of the house. I kind of lied about the abuse part... but I was smothered. I'd say I was abused emotionally by my parents. I came out in the Spring of 1977 to a school counselor. I was very depressed. Thought about suicide. Anyway, he said, "You need to come to San Francisco." He told me to run away from home. He was very respectful and kind. We hung up after an hour. I believe it was a Tuesday....
KEEP ON READING ABOUT HIS JOURNEY TO 'EX-GAY'NESS: Harvey Milk and the Boy from Minnesota [The Blotter]
Hmm. So is he really the inspiration for the kid in the movie? Is the film's crucial plot point now an "ex-gay"? Or is this a case of a life doing a revisionist, opportunistic imitation of his role in this particular piece of art? Debate away, fellow Milk-olytes.
**UPDATE, 1/16: We have it on very good word, from someone who would most definitely know, that the boy in the movie is not inspired by any one person in particular, but rather the thousands of young people who reached out to Harvey. And in fact, our inside source tells us that if the character were just based on one person, the person who would've been the most likely candidate was actually not a boy at all, but rather a young lesbian of whom Harvey frequently spoke.
We're waiting to see if our source would like to reveal their identity. But if not, you'll just have to trust us -- it's someone who knows more about the movie than just about anyone.
Oh, please. Yeah, he's that kid and he's also the Easter Bunny. (Makes the "loser" sign.)
Posted by: Laura | Jan 15, 2009 5:30:49 PM
I am the first to say that I believe nothing that comes out of the mouths of the lying liars. I also have to say that I had difficulty listening to the drivel that he was spouting.
That said, in listening to him, I was struck by the fact that he was obviously a very hurt, and desperate person, and that he was looking for a crutch to prop himself up with. According to him, he tried to find that with Harvey Milk but was disillusioned, and the lying liars swooped in to "save" (prey on) him. Is he telling the truth? Probably not, but it's hard to say. But I have to say that the religious are good at providing their own with a support system.
But, even if it worked for his celibate (all of his life?) self, the lying liars all fall into that trap of assuming that just because they were desperate, deprived, depraved (or whatever else) that everyone else is just like them. There are a lot of lonely, pathetic losers (to be frank) who are willing to deny themselves in exchange for the accepting hospitality of religion. It still leaves them as pathetic losers, but at least they are less lonely - that birds of a feather flocking crap. And, that social network (of other pathetic losers) is, at least, a place where they can commiserate.
Religion becomes their crutch, because they don't have any other options. And in his case, that is very apparent when you listen to him. I mean, can you even suck cock with no kneecaps? I THINK NOT!
I know, I'm a mean, horrible, bad person for calling this cretin a lonely, pathetic loser who can't even adequately suck cock. But when someone (who doesn't even know me) tells me that there is no love in my life, and that I'm an addictive personality JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE...
THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!
Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 15, 2009 6:32:51 PM
He's taking credit for inspiring Jack's suicide? How oh so very convenient that Jack's not around to verify the call.
Posted by: Timothy | Jan 15, 2009 8:05:19 PM
I googled him, and read about as much as I could stand. I think Dick Mills hit the nail right on the head. The guy just couldn't make it in the gay world, because he couldn't make it anywhere. The religious types made him feel welcome, because he said what they wanted him to say. He finally found a place where he sort of fit in. He really sounds pathetic. I just want to yell at him that he's not an ex-homosexual (I don't want to use the word gay in connection with him), he's just a homosexual who doesn't have sex. What really upsets me is that he's here in Minneapolis!
Posted by: Mike in the Tundra | Jan 16, 2009 1:46:22 AM
How many calls like that do you think Harvey Milk received? 100? 200? More?
This is like someone claiming to be the person in a bio pic about Elvis who was handed his silk scarf during a concert.
"Yep. I was the girl in the green blouse who Elvis handed his silk scarf to in Vegas."
Harvey Milk was an international celebrity at the time. He must have received hundreds of calls and thousands of letters.
Posted by: Fritz | Jan 16, 2009 3:59:45 AM
Essentially, he just saw the movie and then conveniently wrote himself into the plot.
Posted by: queenie | Jan 16, 2009 6:29:13 AM
Fine, no one else wants to say the obvious, then I will: of COURSE he couldn't make it in the gay world. Who wants a boyfriend without kneecaps? ;) It's got nothing to do with disability, it's got to do with the lovin', bay-bee! *snicker*
Posted by: Jamie | Jan 16, 2009 7:48:17 AM
Everyone: Be sure to see the update I just posted. I have chatted with someone intimately familiar with the production, and they tell me that it would be wrong for ANYONE to claim that this character was based solely around them. That is, of course, what many of us already suspected; but it's nice to have it confirmed by someone who would certainly know.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 16, 2009 8:52:03 AM
You know what is so funny? I have the prove that I knew Harvey Milk because of Don Amador and Tony Carlson in People's Mg. Here is the second prove, I am in the book. You guys are a hoot. So what you guys are saying is the book is a lie too. ps. the third prove is Ann in the movie knows me too. Why the hate? gerard dols
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 16, 2009 9:42:59 AM
"Why the hate?"
Gerard, I have seen you write things like this in other web forums. What, exactly, do you see as hate? You are going around undermining everything Harvey stood for, and yet we are not turning around saying "WE HATE THIS GUY!" We are merely presenting your story and questioning whether or not you really are the basis for this boy in the movie.
Now, about that: I have spoken with someone directly connected to the production, and they say that the boy was not inspired by any one person. They also say that they have never heard of you until this was brought to their attention.
I don't doubt for a second that you knew Harvey or that you reached out to Harvey. Where I have a problem is if you go around doing press in which you definitely say that you were the boy as a way to discredit this plot point via your new found "ex-gay"ness. In truth, there were thousands of others who inspired this plot point, and they are, presumably, still happy, well-adjusted homos.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 16, 2009 9:57:13 AM
One neck bone out of a hundred young gay men ultimately means nothing. Harvey Milk achieved more in his short life than any of these religious sandpaper handjobs will ever do in 100 years.
And that's the prove! haha.
Posted by: John Ozed | Jan 16, 2009 10:48:06 AM
My God, this is getting stupid. I am in 4 pages in the BOOK. I GAVE YOU 3 PROVE THAT I knews him. Why won't you check it out and prove me wrong. Also Dustin Lance Black took my strory from the book and put it in the movie. Dustin Lance Black was ONLY 8 YEARS OLD WHEN HARVEY WAS MURDERD. WHY IN the heaven would he have known who I was. If you talk to my family they all know I knew him BECAUSE THEY TRYED TO STOP Harvey BECAUSE I WAS 17 YEARS OLD AND HERE IS ANOTHER PROVE, they went to St. PAUL capital to Attorny Gen. office to put a stop to it and they have records of that. Now you guys are getting silly. Please check my story before you say anymore. gerard
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 16, 2009 10:57:41 AM
Gerard: You are missing the point. Nobody is denying your story about knowing Harvey. Nobody is denying that your life has progressed the way you say it has. The point is that you are claiming that you are the sole basis for the boy in the movie, and I am telling you that is simply not so. It has been confirmed to us by someone who would certainly know that the boy was a composite of the thousands who reached out to Harvey. It is your desire to hold ownership that is troubling.
Presumably you are talking about the "Mayor of Castro Street," Randy Shilts' book. However, this film is not based on that book. There is another project that has been circulating for years that IS based on Shilts' work, but that has yet to be produced.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 16, 2009 11:07:38 AM
When Randy S. wrote the book, he could not finded me, he went to Don Amador and got the story from him but He only heard what Harvey said to me. So Don told Randy that I was in a Wheelchair. I could not have been in a wheelchair because he told me to come to S.F right away. Remember Harvy was visting them in West Hollywood for a couple days. So when Harvey send me a letter, when he got back, he gave me his work and home phone, so when I get there I was going to call him. But my parent took the letter from me. Also when Jack hang himself, I went to L.A. to find Don Amador, he was the one who help me out. The 5th prove is that I was with Don Amador of the NO on 6 election party and we talked on the phone that night to Harvey. In the movie, I am the boy from minnesota because after the 1st call, he went out and said we need to help the kids from Richmond Minnesota and others state too. SO YES DUSTIN LANCE BLACK TOOK MY PART FROM THE BOOK. PS. I WAS WITH DON AMADOR ON the election on NO on 6 party in Hollywood and we did talk to Harvy on the phone. This is my last time I will do this and I won't respond again. If you want, you can email me if you want. email@example.com gerard
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 16, 2009 11:41:36 AM
When Randy S. wrote his book about Harvy, he did not talk to me because he did not know where I was. So Don Amador told Randy about the boy from Richmond Mn, when I called Don House. And Don told Randy what he could hear Harvey was saying to me. Don took what Havrey was saying and thought I was in a Wheelchair and I was not in the Wheelchair because in the book it says I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR. REMEMBER I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE BOOK THAT WAS HANDICAP, only one. In the movie, after the first call I made, Harvey went outside and told the people that we must help the kids like people in Richmond Mn, I am from Richmond MN and he names other city also. The second thing is, I was with Don, the night that No on 6 won at the election party and Don and I was the one that called Harvey to let him know that L.A. county was winning and the no on 6 won for Harvey, that is also in the movie. Plus I did vote on that day and the movie did share about my voting for NO. on 6. And that is in the book also. Again I was at that party. WE TALKed TO Harvey ON THE PHONE AND That was in the movie. And that DID HAPPEN THAT WAY. YES Dustin Lance Black took my part from the book because I was with Don at that Party. Many people know that was me because of the book. You just want to beleive the lie. This is my last respond to this and we know the truth. And I am the boy from Minnesota in the movie. And you need to get over this. gerard.
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 16, 2009 12:27:09 PM
In a similar vein, I am the fifth Beatle.
Posted by: John Ozed | Jan 16, 2009 1:07:28 PM
Jeremy, please don't print anymore responses from Gerard Dols, or at least develop some kind of early warning system. I haven't taught for almost 10 years, but I want to take a red grease pencil to my monitor and correct his spelling, grammar, and punctuation. I know that seems petty, but his responses are driving me wild. His mutilation of the English language prevented me from even thinking about what he was saying.
Posted by: Mike in the Tundra | Jan 16, 2009 1:13:10 PM
He was very compassionate and wanted to help me, so I figure the best thing I can do is demean his name and engage in some character assassination.
Posted by: John Ozed | Jan 16, 2009 1:21:06 PM
Wow, what a sad human being. Too bad he hasn't experienced or had the understanding of what love can be.
Posted by: SammySeattle | Jan 16, 2009 1:50:56 PM
Dols, why the hate indeed.
We, as a group, have been the target of so many lying liars that we tend to distrust anything that comes out of their mouths. And, with few exceptions, those lying liars have been the religious. You believe a fairy tale, and so, it is not that difficult for those of your ilk to embellish, or fabricate your own version of the truth. And those lies are generally indicative of an underlying hatred that the religious have for anyone who is different, and mostly for those of us in the LGBT community.
You went on record in your radio discussion with the other lying liars, and claimed with no equivocation that there is no love in same-sex relationships. That is a flagrant lie, perpetrated by what could only be described as a hateful liar. You also claimed that there is rampant substance abuse among those in the LGBT community, another flagrant generalization with no substantiation other than the words coming from a lying liar.
Now tell me, who is the bigger hatemonger here. I merely am responding to your lies, but your hate-filled words were aimed at millions of people that you have no knowledge of, other than your stupid generalizations. You may have found something that you need, but it is nothing that I need. And I resent the fact that you generalize me into the same sad-sack lump that you find yourself in.
Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 16, 2009 2:35:28 PM
You repeatedly make the point that you were not in a wheel chair. And you claim that you were so very close with Don Amador that he put you on the phone to tell Harvey that 6 was failing in LA.
But when Amador talked to Shiltz, he remembered the town you were from and all the dates... but somehow forgot that you were not in a wheelchair?
That seems pretty surprising to me. Downright astonishing, in fact.
Oh... and in case you didn't know... owning a People Magazine does not provide "proof" that you made any calls to anyone.
Posted by: Timothy | Jan 16, 2009 3:18:26 PM
I am sorry but I have to make this post. If you guys are so happy with your gay life, why in the heaven would this bother you so much. I don't care if you want to believe the lies. I would never be upset of what you guys say about me but you guys are so trouble in your gay life. I would never trade my life for the pain you guys have. This really should not bother you so much if your life is so happy and great. gerard
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 16, 2009 3:34:40 PM
I knew that I could get the lying liar to respond! HA! Score! What a loser!
Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 16, 2009 4:18:31 PM
Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 16, 2009 4:20:45 PM
I'm sorry Gerard, but I suddenly remember that I'm the boy from Minnesota. How silly of me to have forgot all about that.
Dick, you deserve a great big kiss for that. The guy can't even keep a promise.
Posted by: Mike in the Tundra | Jan 16, 2009 5:12:54 PM
Dick you are a funny man. I just proved you wrong again. Hope you find some peace for you heavy heart. There is a saying, If you tell the truth, YOU WILL BE HATED BUT IF YOU LIE, they will love you. And again you proved that to me again.
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 16, 2009 6:55:50 PM
Since having written letters and granted interviews claiming fame as "the boy from Minnesota," how has Chaplain Dols responded to the film-makers' public declaration that the boy in the wheel chair was a composite character?
Posted by: A | Jan 17, 2009 5:41:05 PM
Dear A, NO one told you that because I was with Don Amador when NO. on 6. won. And the 2nd phone call in the movie was Don and I. We were the one who called Harvey from Hollywood. Also the book said the same. So NO ONE TOLD YOU THAT BECAUSE IT DID HAPPEN LIKE THE BOOK AND THE MOVIE. gerard
Posted by: Gerard Dols | Jan 17, 2009 7:59:13 PM
Do you even bother to read the posts you answer? Your reply to A makes no sense in the context of his question referring to this Update at the top of this page.
"**UPDATE, 1/16: We have it on very good word, from someone who would most definitely know, that the boy in the movie is not inspired by any one person in particular, but rather the thousands of young people who reached out to Harvey. And in fact, our inside source tells us that if the character were just based on one person, the person who would've been the most likely candidate was actually not a boy at all, but rather a young lesbian of whom Harvey frequently spoke.
We're waiting to see if our source would like to reveal their identity. But if not, you'll just have to trust us -- it's someone who knows more about the movie than just about anyone."
Please tell me English is not your native language, as you seem to be able neither to write nor understand it.
Posted by: The Dude | Jan 17, 2009 8:19:38 PM
Dols you keep harping on prop 6 and don amador. Nobody else is talking about them but you. As somebody else already said the movie makers have denied that you were the inspiration for that character on just about every web site that put up your letter in the first place. It's their movie so they ought to know what they had in mind. And if its so important to you now why didnt you tell people about it until after a movie got made about it anyways?
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