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01/19/2009

Westboro on plane crash: Good for the goose, good for the danger

by Jeremy Hooper

If a plane crashes and kills all aboard, then Westboro Baptist Church calls it God's wrath against America. So what is it if a plane survives a bout of extreme engine trouble? Oh, well that's still God hating us, of course.

This from Westboro's blog:

Thank God For The Plane Crash!
January 16th, 2009

Subject: Us Air Crash Landing In N.Y.

From what I’ve read and heard on the news about the plane landing in the Hudson River after being hit by a flock of geese I guess you will be looking for the nearest bird sanctuary to picket with signs like: God hates Geese, Birds in Hell, etc. After all, the plane was just the instrument of God’s revenge on those nasty bird dropping birds.

Marie

Dear Marie -

Bitterness is such an ugly thing. :yes:

Thank God for the birds! God sent those birds to put the face on the phony Doomed americans and their amazing rebellion and stupidity!!

The plane crashed - Thank God for that!! God calls that sending you calamity! And then, when you are terrified and forever impacted by that, and NOT ONE OF YOU THANKING GOD FOR HIS MERCY, and amending your mangy ways. You are not giving the glory to God for his mercy in that not ALL of those people perished. Every last detail of that matter was arranged by the LORD your God, and you REFUSE to give him the glory for that. Instead, you cling to yet more idols … the “hero” pilot; the cloddish “emergency workers”, even the passengers who only SAT there as the plane crashed – they are now “heros” to you brutish Doomed americans. God is laughing at you!! Yes - Thank God for the birds - they brought down the plane. God owns the birds and HE alone can bring down the plane or hold the plane in the air.
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Now – how about you shut your scoffing mouth and learn to Fear God and OBEY HIM – THAT maudlin, mocking Marie is YOUR duty!

The Lord is coming and america is DOOMED!!

Ya know, because Westboro's God is less of a cheerleader for the humanity that he created, more of a horror movie director hellbent on watching it scream. So essentially their version of Christianity involves 200901191101casting any human who is not named Phelps into the evil, death-deserving role, and then rooting for their last breath. How convenient. How twisted.

Be sure to keep an eye out for WBC's future avian-based rationalizations, in which the "miracle" involved in a choking victim's plight will lie not in the Heimlich Maneuver that saved her life, but rather in the throat-lodged fried bird that scared the ever-loving shit out of her.

***NOTE: This full Westboro press release can be found on their website. However, a link from us is something these bird enthusiasts will never receive.

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Your thoughts

Those saddlebackers!

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 19, 2009 4:27:03 PM

And what moral hypocritesTHEY are. They castigate others for not thanking God that the plane landed safely and nobody was killed, but not once do THEY thank God for this.
How do you maintain your sanity reading this stuff, Jeremy? I mean, they're not just unbearably mean-spirited and hateful, they're also idiots!

Posted by: Bill S | Jan 19, 2009 4:33:28 PM

I think the line that really caught my attention was "NOT ONE OF YOU THANKING GOD FOR HIS MERCY." How do they know? Were they with each of the passengers before they went to sleep at night, on the next leg of their trip (however they went)? For all anyone knows, EACH one of them sincerely thanked GOD. ONLY THEY KNOW!!!

just my 2 cents.

Posted by: aj | Jan 19, 2009 8:11:41 PM

One other bit of insanity from my sister. It's puzzling to me how god could hate America then, just randomly, decide to show mercy. That's the beauty of belief in mythology...you can be as random and irrational as possible and all around you say Amen!

Posted by: Nate | Jan 20, 2009 10:15:58 AM

I dunno, it seems kinds disingenuous for them to accuse others of not thanking God for being merciful. Whenever something bad happens, the only thing they have to say is that they wish some greater number had perished.

Also, calling out passengers for sitting in their seats as a plane crashes? WTF, people who've done as much air travel as they have should know that you're supposed to stay put, fasten your seatbelt, put on the oxygen mask etc. It's like they're desperate to smear as many people as possible, and it's really, really pathetic.

Posted by: MeltedRubberSoul | Jan 20, 2009 10:32:56 AM

Bill S. cyber-wonders how Shirley Phelps-Roper could have known if the people who survived the plane crash thanked God for his mercy in not killing them. This is very troubling to Bill S.

It's a no-brainer Bill. We know by what comes out of their mouths, just like we know by what comes out of your mouth, and the mouths of all doomed americans. Shirley spelled it in our e-mail to Mad Marie. IT'S THE WORDS STUPID!

If you are a person whose heart has been struck with the mercy of God, and you are aware that God has spared you so you aren't cast off TODAY; and that God has given you another chance to repent and obey TODAY, wild horses wouldn't be able to shut you up about it. You'd be knocking people down to get to those hundreds of cameras that were all over that scene, and you would be singing like a bird! (No pun intended. :-D)

You would be saying to this Godless brutish nation words like, "Wake up! God is merciful if you OBEY! Stop sinning! Your sin is taking you to hell!" Then after you did that for a period you would have a good feel for the raging foaming-at-the-mouth mob of rebels this nation is, and then you would get back to that microphone, no matter what it took, and say, "God hates this doomed nation! Fear God! Obey!"

Instead, the only words that came out of that exercise-in-bruthish-mindless-pride was ALL ABOUT THE HUMAN and how marvelous THE HUMAN was and what glory THE HUMAN should be given. You worship the creature instead of the Creator in this nation and GOD HATES YOU FOR IT -- ALL OF YOU -- EACH OF YOU -- ANY OF YOU WHO DON'T SAY RIGHT WORDS!

Bill S. -- I'm assuming that stands for Stupid-Enough-to-Finally-Know-it's-Time-to-Shut-Up! -- it's the words; your words; their words; our words. By your words you will be condemned. By their words they will be condemned. We, the faithful watchers at WBC inspect the fruit of the words. And by our words we will testify to this whole world. Your words are wrong. God hates this nation. This nation is doomed. Beast Obama -- who we just picketed roundly and soundly at his coronation as King -- will take this nation to its final destruction JUST LIKE YOU DESERVE.

As Shirley often tells you -- YAY!!!!!!!

OBEY!

Posted by: Margie Phelps | Jan 21, 2009 8:51:13 AM

Margie, just curious: Why didn't you acknowledge your brother Nate, who also commented in this thread?

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 21, 2009 9:00:51 AM

Pick me - Marge doesn't get to say all the words! First - WHO is our brother? The Lord Jesus Christ answered that - it goes like this - ALL HUMAN TIES WILL PERISH!! And these that do the will of God are my brother, sister, mother, father, children, etc.

Jeremy - don't you get it - Nathan is running from his Bible knowledge. He says what is pricking his heart. He knows perfectly well what the answer to his phony statement is. It is found in these glorious words:

Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 ¶ What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

YAY!!! Those words are so awesome!! Look what God said! He said - I do what I want and you can't stop me! He had Pharaoh born into this world so that he would grow up and become Pharaoh and then God would send Moses to tell him the words and God would harden Pharaoh’s heart so that Pharaoh would NOT obey and then, God, to show his power and to get his glory kicked Pharaoh’s ass. Pharaoh was the King of the most powerful nation in the earth in his day, his army was second to NONE! When God was done with Pharaoh, every last soldier in his army was dead at the bottom of the Red Sea. God did that to glorify his name. All the events that led up to that amazing final outcome were done before the eyes of the world and all eyes witnessed when God destroyed Egypt's entire army and it caused them great fear and so many more words about that. The short of this is - the answer lies in the words, and the words condemn Nathan Phelps. He is just another rebel without a cause, and WORSE. Because he made a profession of faith and he was a member of the church of the Lord Jesus Christ. Now see the words about what hope he has at this hour and then understand what motivates his running mouth in blasphemy against HIS CREATOR and learn to Fear God! Because God is going to repay that rebel TO HIS FACE for his hatred of HIM! That's all, nothing fluffy, nothing fancy, just simply Bible doctrine!

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

We did not write the words, we did not set the standards, we found them, and we believe them and we are just your kind friends that will tell you that if you will obey the standards of God and serve him IN TRUTH, he will bless you and keep you in all your ways, and further, IT IS YOUR DUTY!

Your best friend,
Shirley Phelps-Roper

Posted by: Shirley Phelps-Roper | Jan 21, 2009 1:14:07 PM

But more importantly, Shirley: What did you think of Michelle Obama's dress?

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jan 21, 2009 1:20:08 PM

Well i'm just gonna say it....The Westboro Baptist church are inbred morons, but God will probably have pity on them in the end. Spreading the word of God is not the same as spreading the stories of wrath by God. I've never seen such a blatant perversion of scripture. Blatant disregard for the covenants. Ignorant of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Complete lack of compassion. The bible warns us of these things. These false prophets. Picket signs do not equal righteousness.

I would rather burn in hell than please their version of God.

I'll be glad when they all drink the spiked kool-aid to meet up with the Hale-Bopp comet.

I would LOVE to sit down with these people and debate scripture. I'm not even a Christian, and I could mop the floor with them.

Posted by: Thenothingorchid | Feb 6, 2009 10:00:53 PM

I am an atheist, but I sincerely hope that, if I did believe in the Phelps' version of God, I would have the moral fortitude to spit in his face.

TRiG.

Posted by: Timothy (TRiG) | Feb 9, 2009 6:37:15 AM

uh yes lets see yes what does the bible actually say about calvinism does it have anything directly to say.. yes it does it is in 2 peter 2......incredible that there are people who still that blind i wouldnt want to stand before a holy God with a calvinist heart OUCHHH !

Posted by: timothy | Feb 16, 2009 10:12:25 PM

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