Audio: As our rights become 'marrier', our opposition becomes scarier
The Liberty Counsel's Mat Staver is still trying to work the "pro-gay legislators are all unfit for office" line. Oh, and remember how outraged he and all of his cronies were about the Prop 8 outcry? Well Mat is now quite literally now suggesting that his anti-gay side should engage in a "another American Revolution."
The lawmaker quips begins around the 1:25 mark, and the call to war begins around 2:35:
So essentially, anyone who thinks differently than Mat is just plain wrong. Lawmakers, judges, governors, and common citizens: They are either anti-gay or unfit to serve. And if Mat doesn't get his way, he's gonna rile his team up in a rage that invokes the essence of bloody wars.
Our marriage victories are as sweet as can be. But we're warning you right now, dear readers: A powerless religious right could be ten times more frightening on the ground than they were in the voting booth!
This guy is batshit crazy! Another American Revoluation? I sincerely believe (and hope) most even minded americans can see through this nonsense. I suppose the good news is that outbursts like this push these groups ever closer to being considered equal to the WBC.
Posted by: Craig | Apr 9, 2009 1:29:33 PM
I agree completely... This stuff that this man is spouting is borderline TREASONOUS. After listening to the whole segment I can't figure out what this side the guy is on.
First he "sounds" pro democracy, then he asks the the executive branch ignore to do its job?
Later he complains about the will of the people / how we should respect it but then he want a U.S. constitutional amendment banning gay marriage-even though a majority of the public is against a marriage amendment?
What ever this guy is on he NEEDS rehab -pronto
Posted by: Jeff Chang | Apr 9, 2009 1:48:19 PM
Wow, I hope he keeps talking as a representative of the right because he is a NUTBAR. BTW, I seem to recall that the CA Legislature passed marriage equality back in '05. Yeah, it was vetoed, but still, it happened. And how offensive that he says that the Vermont legislature is out of touch with their constituents? They constantly assume that they know not only the mind of God but the minds of the people. It's amazing to me that anyone would listen to this drivel and believe it. I've known homophobia up close and personal but it never ceases to astound me the pure hatred they must have for us.
Posted by: ZnSD | Apr 9, 2009 1:54:08 PM
I wonder when the religious wrong will finally understand that THE "PEOPLE" CAN NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY IN MY HUMAN RIGHTS!
Posted by: Harrison | Apr 9, 2009 1:54:54 PM
"But we're warning you right now, dear readers: A powerless religious right could be ten times more frightening on the ground than they were in the voting booth! "
Yeah, cuz 95% have guns... and their eyesight is going and their hands are getting way shakier...so look out! At least, they won't be strong enough to wield the machine guns they were practicing with last week ... or will they?
Posted by: LOrionL | Apr 9, 2009 1:58:50 PM
What a wanker. Pushing for a Federal Marriage Amendment. That ain't gonna happen you dumb geezer!
Posted by: John Ozed | Apr 9, 2009 2:01:53 PM
Yes Mat Staver, because what this country needs in a time of severe economic crisis, when we already have enough men and women overseas fighting seemingly unwinnable wars, is yet ANOTHER war because Mike and John got a marriage licence and live in a 2 story tudor in Burlington with their 3 kids and collie/retriever mix.
PEOPLE OF AMERICA! Forget your search for jobs, your morgage payments and the struggle over whether you can pay for your kid's college tuition! RISE UP, FIND YOUR BAYONETS! Go revolt because the legislatures YOU PUT IN OFFICE enacted a law that MAT STAVER doesn't agree with!
Seriously, you can't make this shit up.
Posted by: Stef | Apr 9, 2009 2:08:57 PM
"A powerless religious right could be ten times more frightening on the ground than they were in the voting booth!"
I could not agree more! Congruent with believing in their fairy tales is (at least in some of the fanatics) a devotion to dogmatic extremes. You see it in radical Muslim factions, and the entire history of Christianity is riddled with them as well. It's like a rabid animal backed into a corner - rational, self preservative thought has evaporated, and fight-or-flight inevitably turns to violent. And, jackasses like Staver seem to be hellbent on ensuring that that happens.
They think that they want a theocracy, but I seriously doubt that they truly want surrender their personal belief system to some collective theocratic edict. They don't realize how much of their own beliefs they would have to give up in acquiescence to some communal theocracy. But, they are also so blinded by their jihadist rage that they can't see beyond their noses.
Posted by: Dick Mills | Apr 9, 2009 2:49:45 PM
"This is a battle we cannot lose...we must not lose," says Matt Staver. (Or I will lose my job and my reason for being.)
Wadda douche bag!
Posted by: Brucci | Apr 9, 2009 2:56:01 PM
Okay, I'm pretty sure that fomenting rebellion is explicitly forbidden under federal law.
Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Apr 9, 2009 3:13:56 PM
Ha! According to a poll released July 2008, Americans oppose a US constitutional marriage amendment 56% to 38%.
Posted by: Just me | Apr 9, 2009 4:03:42 PM
The religious bigots will continue to beat the drum. What their argument boils down to is now "What about the children?"
And how this will lead to prosecution of clerics.
And legislators, they've been disassociated from the people for a very long time.
Posted by: Tony P | Apr 9, 2009 4:39:13 PM
Oh my God...heterosexual marriage is being undermined!!! Everyone knows that there are only so many marriages that can be performed in any given year, and if the queers start exercising their right to marry, there won't be any left for straight people!!! Time to put gay people back in the closet where they belong!
Posted by: David Hart | Apr 9, 2009 5:24:45 PM
He said "Every state needs a constitutional amendment so judges and legislators cannot rewrite the definition of marriage." I'm sorry but... who is supposed to create law and define marriage? These arguments make is very evident that they believe the church should be in control of our country.
Posted by: Eric | Apr 9, 2009 5:56:33 PM
they can't get their talking points straight anymore . .so now the elected legistative officials don't represent the people? They were bleating just the opposite 3 weeks ago.
Activist: Judges, Legislators. . .WTF?
Posted by: Jon | Apr 9, 2009 8:16:56 PM
When filling out my geen card paperwork, I had to make several affirmations. Among them:
- I am not a prostitute, nor have I engageged the services of one.
- I am not a communist
- I do not intend to commit polygamy
- I do not intend to engage in espionage
- I do not advocate the overthrow of the US government by violence or revolt
- From 1933 through 1945, I had no affiliation with the National Socialist Party of Germany
It's a good thing Mat's already an American, because he wouldn't be allowed to immigrate to the US after what he said today.
Posted by: DN | Apr 9, 2009 8:59:09 PM
I do not understand how this guy isn't being brought up on charges of treason/terrorism. While I'm not usually one to go around saying that people should be brought up on these charges, or any charges for that matter, I'm also not usually confronted by someone advocating a new Revolutionary War.
I do agree that these people can be much more frightening on the ground. Just take a look at movies like "Jesus Camp" (or was it "Camp Jesus"?). These people are gearing up for war, and they are training their children in how to fight it. I do not think that they have the backing they believe they do, to fight such a war, but I do think that we could see the newest incarnation of the KKK, more guerilla style conflict, such as those used on abortion clinics, and that the world could be come a very scary place for homosexuals living in smaller communities. Something must be done to stop the talk now, because it WILL lead to action on the part of these wackos sooner or later, on a scale of anti-homosexual violence that we have yet to see.
While I know that this is a worst-case scenario, I also know that the idea of it will keep me awake tonight, and many more nights into the future.
Posted by: Jack | Apr 9, 2009 11:01:46 PMcomments powered by Disqus