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04/03/2009

Audio: You have the right to remain silent, the right to...wait a minute, are you an atheist?

by Jeremy Hooper

What's the far-right's next strategy? Well if Mike from Virginia, and the concurring parties of Matt Barber and Steve Crampton (both of The Liberty Counsel) are any guides, then denying non-believers of their legal civil rights might be in the cards:

(click to play audio clip)
*Audio source: 04/03/09 - Liberty Live [AFR]

Just when we think we can't be shocked any more, one goes and implies that religious freedom means you must either believe in God or lose your freedom. Then there we find ourselves, again picking pieces of our minds off the walls.

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Someone tell these guys you don't have to swear on a Bible in court. Their heads will explode and their idiocy will end.

Posted by: DN | Apr 3, 2009 9:36:39 PM

Very fascinating!

On the atheist thing, maybe their parents (forefathers) are their creator I don't know (I'm not atheist).

Maybe I should tactfully remind them (in the audio clip) that the words "by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" are in the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution. Those words were written by Jefferson who was not a Christian as we think of them today.

I certainly agree that the Constitution should be viewed as it was originally intended and not as a living document. That is why the Constitution is so hard to change, so it isn't subject to the whims of temporary fads. The original intention of the separation of church and state is one they seem to like to forget. Furthermore, the equal protection clause wasn't added until 1868, so appealing to James Madison as Rush is so fond of doing is irrelevant, he wasn't alive in 1868. No change is necessary because it already says that gay and bi individuals can get married to the partners of their preferred gender and that the state must recognize them, it is implicit given the 14th and 1st amendments.

The fact that we haven't interpreted it this way in the past is understandable given that our understanding of sexual orientation has changed so recently. The constitution has survived over 200 years because its implications can be applied to new understanding (science) and new circumstances (nuclear weapons, global markets, etc) and still retain its original intention.

Why do some people insist that the US constitution is somehow holy? Talk about changing the constitution!

Sorry for rant but I just had to get that out.

Posted by: Dan M | Apr 3, 2009 10:16:45 PM

These people are lunatics...like, it's funny to a point, but then you think what if all the rejects who thought like this EVER God forbid got into office and made laws....

And what "God" exactly gives them their rights? The Christian one? The Jewish one? The Muslim one (oh I could only imagine). The Buddhist one? The Pagan one(s)? The Scientologist one (Zenu!)? How long until "you only have rights if you believe in God" turns into "you only have rights if you're a Christian"?

DO THESE PEOPLE NOT HAVE COMMON SENSE?

Posted by: Stef | Apr 4, 2009 12:40:23 AM

Not only does the Constitution not say that our rights come from God, it never directly mentions God, Jesus, or Christianity. Unlike every other constitution written before that time, it does not open with an appeal to a supreme being. Also, these religious wingnuts never seem to remember that Article 6 of the Constitution explicitly forbids any religious test for office. If the Founders were such religious zealots, why in the world did they include that little gem?

Posted by: Ken McKnight | Apr 4, 2009 1:00:34 PM

More of the whackjob revisionism that claims the Constitution was written by God for believers in God (their god, obviously). They like to think the Founding Fathers were all RRRW fundamentalists like them and forget that this nation was founded by people trying to escape a theocratic government.

Hateful fools.

Posted by: Buffy | Apr 5, 2009 8:14:14 PM

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