Heterosexuality? Absolutely protected! 'Ex-gay'ness as a separate class? Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever!
Professional gay-"changing" advocate Regina Griggs is still working the ridiculous idea that the social construct known as "ex-gay" will be punished if LGBTS-inclusive hate crimes legislation becomes law:
The ex-gay community will be under fire. We are under fire now," Griggs believes. "I'm beginning to think that I know every major Christian law firm in this country, just because I want people to know change is possible and give you your right to self-determination. There will be no rights."
'Hate crimes' bill targets ex-'gay' community [ONN]
Animal rights activists, not to be outdone, will today seek to include unicorns in all forthcoming species protections.
The unicorn analogy is spot-on.
Posted by: JeffRob | May 15, 2009 10:14:58 AM
"The ex-gay community"?
That makes about as much sense as calling Gacy, Dahmer, Bundy, etc. "the serial killer community".
A few swindlers scattered around the country does NOT make them a "community".
Posted by: Scott | May 15, 2009 2:10:12 PM
So... does anyone know of a single ex-gay who thinks the therapy is succesful and helpful and isnt being paid for saying that?
PS: even if it actually worked you'd be fucking straight, 'ex-gay' is a label obviously thought up to make gays look bad.
Posted by: Penguinsaur | May 15, 2009 5:52:17 PM
Well, the fact of the matter is that they are protected. If, the in fact have blossomed into Heterosexuals, they they are protected as heteros. If they are still same-sex attracted but celibate. which appears overwhelmingly (for the handful of them that claim to "exist") to be the case then they are protected as homosexuals. If they want celibacy to be identified as an orientation, then I think it more properly belongs in the paraphilia (fetish) category.
Posted by: Dick Mills | May 15, 2009 6:02:08 PM
And, one more thing..
They want to be protected as if they are victims of hate crimes. When was the last time you heard of an ex-gay (post-gay, no-longer-gay, gay-but-celibate, or whatever the hell the dozen or so professional junk-science peddlers are calling themselves today) being hospitalized after a brutal beating, or being beaten to death, or beaten and left to die, or assassinated in their own driveway, or stabbed, or verbally berated on a public street, or any of the other dozen things that happened to members of our community JUST LAST WEEK! Not to mention the thousands of things that we, as a community, have suffered for decades.
I can't think of a single one. None! ZERO!
Then, they claim that the Matthew Shepard Act targets them! TARGETS THEM!! The only way that it could possibly target them is if they are perpetrating acts of physical violence against LGBTs. I don't know any of them, so I can't say definitively, but maybe they are?? If they're afraid that their actions could be considered physical violence - then maybe they are doing more than just financially, verbally and emotionally abusing the deluded souls that fall into their trap.
Hell, the way they talk, one gets the impression that one of their rites of passage must be to go out and beat the shit out of a homo?? Knowing about all of the rest of their moronic lunacy, it would not surprise me!
Posted by: Dick Mills | May 17, 2009 12:21:42 AM
I came to this site as well as many others searching. I have been an out/proud lesbian for years now. Im searching because I feel like I desperately need a faith based connection with God. Am I not allowed to be saved and be gay? Is there no common ground? Will I have to be "ex" gay? If any one can help, has constructive advice... im desperate...
Posted by: kami | May 20, 2009 5:28:46 PM
Why not become an Episcopalian, or join one of the other Christian denominations that does accept gays?
Posted by: Fiat Lex | May 23, 2009 7:27:57 PM
Before I begin, Kami, I'm unitarian. We would love to help you find god or a god who will be there for you, support you, love you, be it Christianity or some other religion. Unitarianism teaches the value of having religion, without being entirely specific on the details. If it revolves around love and acceptance, we're pretty much for it.
Also, I recommend the denomination Exodus Metropolitan. They are gay christians, and they're very nice people and very, very intelligent. I'm pagan myself, but after leaving christianity, I tried their church. It wasn't for me, but I support them with all my heart.
Finally, this article should help you a lot http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian
On to what I was originally going to post.
I'm ex-ex-gay and proud of it. I was "ex-gay" in high school, and when I left, I discovered that it was all bunk, for one, and for two, I'm bisexual. They portrayed homosexuality to me like heroin addiction, when honestly, being ex-gay felt more like drug addiction, like I was hurting myself because didn't like myself and thought I was evil.
Of all the other ex-gays I've known, none of them have been successful. One is out and proud, one gave up and became a prostitute, and the authors I've read? They have all either "backslid", changed their minds, or seem to be bisexual (like me!). Sorry Anne Paulk. I'm bisexual and getting married to a man this December. We want to have children. Your husband and kids don't prove to me that you've left homosexuality, just that you're bi and monogamously with a dude.
The ex-gay thing nearly ruined my life. After I left, I met the man of my dreams and have lots of good friends. Why the hell would I give that up? Life is better without the self denial and divine condemnation. I am me, I like boys AND girls, my children will be raised knowing that they should be themselves and should love good people, loving, honest, and passionate, not people with certain body parts. I love my life and I love the proud strong bisexual woman I've become. What is so evil about that?
As for this weird wanting to be included in the bill nonsense, When did they aid the fight to put the bill in? Why should they be included when they've been key in fighting it? And as for this thinking that their organizations will be stopped from their goals, this bill is about physical violence, verbal direct slander, etc, and is careful not to infringe on free speech. See, free speech means that if you don't like what is being said, you leave. It doesn't mean you can stop them. And it doesn't mean that you can force people to listen. So chill out. So long as you aren't kidnapping them, beating them with sticks or killing them, you can say whatever nutty lies you want, and we don't have to listen, and we can in fact leave.
I wonder if there is an ex-ex-gay recovery facebook group. If there isn't, I think I'll go start one.
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