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Audio: Well at least the 'Schund' part is spelled out

by Jeremy Hooper

2005Top-2Back in 2005, while speaking at the Shore Christian Center as part of his gubernatorial campaign, Bret Schundler made the following offensive assertions about the countless and lesbian families who populate New Jersey:

*FULL Sunday Sermon (his label, by the way, not ours): Schundler for Governor

Today, Governor-elect Chris Christie selected Schundler to serve as New Jersey's education commissioner. As in public education. For all kinds of children (including those being raised by two mothers or fathers), and not just the ones who happen to be evangelical Christians.

[::sigh::] Elections matter, people.


**Oh, and as Dick Mills points out in our comments section: "James Q Wilson, the 'most respected social scientist' that he mentions... ISN'T a SOCIAL SCIENTIST. He's a POLITICAL SCIENTIST."


**UPDATE, 8/28/10: Gov. Christie should have listened to us:

TRENTON - New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie fired his education commissioner Friday for making a mistake on an application form that cost the state a $400 million grant.
*Read more: N.J. education commissioner Bret Schundler fired after $400M mistake [AP via NYDN]

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James Q Wilson, the "most respected social scientist" that he mentions... ISN'T a SOCIAL SCIENTIST. He's a POLITICAL SCIENTIST. What's the difference? The former sounds like he is trained in psychology or sociology, the later proves that he has a political agenda, and little or no training as a social scientist. Just another lie to add to the heap that the lying liars depend on.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jan 13, 2010 7:18:19 PM

Dick, you're incorrect. Political scientists are social scientists. Political science is a social science. And not all political scientists have agendas. Wilson does, of course, as do others. But as annoying as Wilson is, as much as we may disagree with him, he has been trained and he is respected.

Posted by: Ted | Jan 13, 2010 8:59:36 PM

His nomination has to be approved by the state senate, the state senate will still have to vote on him. Perhaps the NJ equality groups could work towards his defeat and force the governor to find a Whitman-like Republican to be the education commissioner.

Unfortunately we are going to see more incidents like this in the future. People are fed up of the status quo right now and people want real change and that might mean less-civil rights friendly politicians. If Democratic party politicians want to win in 2010, they need to lay off the platitudes and deliver.

Posted by: Matt from California | Jan 14, 2010 4:30:25 AM

This is what people forget when you say "elections matter." The GOP finds a candidate very skilled at running a bland campaign, seeming innocuous and in no way tied to the continuously failed and failing policies of the capitalist/evangelical right-wing.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...well, you can't fool me again, right?
Except they do it. over and over and over.
Corzine might have more or less been a failed governor and it's CERTAINLY just one more example of our political parties' inability to put forward good candidates to challenge incumbents (they just value their privilege and standing a little too much to worry about doing a good job), but look at what we'll be seeing in Jersey for 4 years?
Very, very sad.

Posted by: Eric | Jan 14, 2010 7:54:31 AM

Ted, while Political Science is a Social Science, calling a Political Scientist a Social Scientist is like calling a Chiropractor a Doctor. In this context, it is misleading to the point of being a lie. The Political moniker is disadvantageous, so it isn't mentioned, that lack of clarification is the lie that I pointed out.

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