Video: In which Peter Sprigg seeks our criminalization
Some of you probably thought the Family Research Council's Peter Sprigg reached his apex of offense when he said we should export gays from the U.S. We certainly did.
Now we will learn that we underestimated him at our own perill:
That sound you hear? It's the mask of nicety dropping away from the movement that fully depends on the same. Thank you for that, Liability Sprigg.
**Lest we forget:
Spriggs and Co. take survey data, which has zero probability of being representative of the military as a whole, and they continue to repeat the results simply because the "finding" matches their agenda. And, then he has to gall to say that the makeup of the Supreme Court in 2003 was such that the decision was decided wrongly. The ruling was 6-3, and given that this court was (still is) so heavily stacked toward Spriggs agenda, and even they resoundingly slammed that door shut.
But it is good that he (finally and honestly) admits just how much they really do hate us. The "kill the gays" bill was a direct outcropping from the animus that American evangelicals harbor toward LGBTs, and if they are ever allowed to have their way, that same thing would happen here.
Fortunately, even after 8 years of Cheney / Bush, they were still unable to fully undermine the system that keeps them at bay. And, I personally believe that they (reveling in their lunacy) were a key component in the unraveling of the conservative political machine. So, not only were they unsuccessful, but they also basically destroyed any chance they might have had at converting our democracy into the theocracy that they might find to be more ideal.
Posted by: Dick Mills | Feb 2, 2010 8:37:17 PM
What I find utterly amazing about the Christian Taliban - is Israel the holiest of land, the land of God's chosen - the place where the great war of Armageddon is suppose to take place has openly gay and lesbian soldiers who fight terrorists daily on their own soil don't seem to have a problem with it - but somehow it's bad policy for America!
The marriage issue doesn't make my blood boil as much as this one does!
Posted by: Alonzo | Feb 2, 2010 8:55:07 PM
Is it coincidence that this man's right-angle nostrils make him look like a pig?
Posted by: Christopher Eberz | Feb 2, 2010 9:19:03 PM
OK so it's *vile* that that man, Peter Sprigg, said that homosexual behavior should be criminalized. But let's not ever - for a SECOND - forget that he laughed about it a second later.
I would love to offer a candid opinion of Mr. Sprigg, but anything short of a love poem to the far right is welcomed by them - any criticism, no matter how well-founded, they take as *proof* that they are the victims, that they are the ones being targeted, and that they are the ones who deserve the support of those who are undecided.
So I say, Mr. Sprigg, I love you and I wish the best for your family. May you see the error of your ways, but, until then, peace be with you.
Posted by: DN | Feb 2, 2010 11:05:54 PM
Personlly, I don't wish any of the Christofascists well at all. They all deserve the derision and contempt they have fostered for these many 35 years bashing the rest of us who have nothing against them except their insanity and trying to legislate the buybull. Their ultimate goal of a theocracy in the U.S. is bound to fail, however, even one whit of legislation that is enacted based upon some unfounded christian belief system is too much for me and mine. If they are truly in the right, let them sue instead of continuing to stir up trouble through ballot initiatives, the C Street family, and infiltration of our school boards, State houses, and US Senate and House. These people need to be rooted out of the system, permanently.
Posted by: Mykelb | Feb 3, 2010 2:17:23 AM
Actually, the sound that you heard was the sound of white sheets and hoods dropping to the floor.
Posted by: Mykelb | Feb 3, 2010 2:29:13 AM
Zounds, it sounds like the brutal "hammer" of the Inquisition, again, knocking at my back door! :oP Sprigg's statements are just, simply, so sick and devoid of any human decency!
Anyone else feel like these Christo-Fascists ought to have some sort of sanctions placed upon them to stop their behavior and involvement in the US "democratic" and political system, yet would not interfere with the First Amend.? Hell, how do we excise this fringe from the Republican party?
It's sad that they want us to revert to earlyer far less progressive eras in American history, especially when the US is already severely lagging behind most countries in Europe, the UK, and even Canada! I have seen explicit and public advertising in Canada from Verizon that directly targeted the Gay community; yet NO such advertising would EVER be allowed in the States! And, that doesn't make sense! Personally, I would love to see Gay couples and our families normalized in advertisements, particularly on TV. But, I expect that that'll never happen in my life time for fear of "offending" some Christian! Well, what about THEM "offending" ME, 'eh?
Sadly, I thing it may take a Christo-Fascist Talabanic regime to make Americans understand that their views ought to be, in fact, opposed by every American, and even most religious individuals to protect our liberties and freedoms! One wonders, however, just *what* "criminal sanctions" ol' Spriggs believes ought to be levied against us and enforced (again)?
Of course, it goes without saying that his impetus for feeling that we should be banned from serving opening is utter B.S. from a "critical thinking" perspective, especially how he portrays us as sex-craved animals that look at every male as a "sex object"! Wat a heterosexist! Of course, by extension, their hidden impetus, I believe, is that serving openly would glorify us as heroes in the minds of the Americans which would, likely, cause them to loose their culture war at a much greater pace. Besides, he clearly does not think that we are "moral", hence not qualified to serve in the Army, despite that numerous other allied Nations allow Gay men and Lesbians to serve openly!
And, his belief that "homosexual attraction is not a choice, but we ought to restrain ourselves from acting on those feelings" is utter rubbish! if it's a natural part of the human animal, then why should we abstain and be homosexually celibate?! That makes MO rational sense!
But, what I like to think about at times like this is this: Just watch how, over the generations, we will likely see fewer and fewer hate- and -fear-mongers, not because they are dying off, but because the pastors at the pulpit will, in greater numbers, know gay people and come to find that animus and hostility towards us is not within their core religious teachings. It all stems from the pulpit, to some degree...
Posted by: Wade MacMorrighan | Feb 3, 2010 12:17:58 PM
This needs to be spread far and wide. It's not about "the family", which is so different from real families. It's not about "protecting" marriage or anything else. It's not about a difference of opinion. It's about hate, hate, hate, pure and simple. Recently, my own mother tried to tell me I'm sounding "hateful" when it comes to organizations that "just want to help traditional families, even if you don't agree with them." You better believe I'm e-mailing these videos to her.
Posted by: GreenEyedLilo | Feb 3, 2010 5:40:30 PM
I have no doubt at all that their true intentions are genocidal. Of course they can't say that directly, not right now anyway. They will try to get there from here in a series of incremental steps, gradually creating an environment where such sentiment is not beyond the pale. It's been done before.
Posted by: marsmannetje | Feb 3, 2010 7:20:04 PM
@Wade: "Anyone else feel like these Christo-Fascists ought to have some sort of sanctions placed upon them to stop their behavior and involvement in the US "democratic" and political system, yet would not interfere with the First Amend.? Hell, how do we excise this fringe from the Republican party?" The way to do this is to take away the tax exemption for churches. It's a simple matter of changing IRS rules. By taking away the money that empowers this kind of behavior, you turn off the spigot of the bigot. If churches cannot show that 90% of their money isn't used for charity, then they should be taxed.
Posted by: Mykelb | Feb 4, 2010 11:55:01 PM
Its straits that come on to Gays,not the other way around.Historically the greatest military fighting forces were Gay. The sacred band of thebes, Alexander the Great,Lawrence of Arabia, Fredrick the great, Hitler,and on and on. They should TAX these churches and church based orgs.They need to enforce separation of church and state. Greed, Religion, and fear mongering ignorance, the same garbage that brought you the issues of slavery and racism Japanese American internment camps, womens rights,and homophobia.
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