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06/18/2007
Savage. Gays. Oy.
Hey, guess what? That lovable little mensch Michael Savage had some very "kind" words for us yet again. Here is an excerpt from his 6/15 show:
SAVAGE: Here's a headline you're not going to believe. It's 100 percent true: "Gays conspire with corrupt politicians to steal constitutional rights of voters in Massachusetts, forcing homosexual marriage down throats of millions, bypassing the ballot box."
What they did in Massachusetts is what was initiated in California with a proposition. They wanted to bring it directly to the people, meaning the voters. Isn't that what our system says? Are we going to descend into the Sunnis and the Shiites under these vermin, these rats, these bums, these corrupt scum?
In Massachusetts, a gang -- including the governor, including the Speaker of the House Sal DiMasi, including Senate president Therese Murray, and including Governor Deval Patrick -- they did an end-run around the voters. The voters wanted a vote on homosexual marriage. They wanted it to go before the people, and these criminals went behind the voters' back and shot it down. They won't even let them vote on it. They said "drop dead" to all of you. "We're not going to let you vote on it! We control the state!" The gang that answers to the gay mafia controls the state -- "You people, you can drop dead, all of you."
Now, if you think it's just a bunch of homophobes, who wanted the people to vote, what would you make of this statement? Who do you think was the lead sponsor of the proposed amendment to have overturned homosexual marriage, which, of course, as you well know, is an affront to all of civilization?
A hundred and seventy thousand Massachusetts residents signed the petition to place the ban on the ballot. Raymond Flynn, the former Boston mayor and former U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, was the lead sponsor of this amendment. You know what he had to say? You know what he had to say? He said that "the people had their votes stolen from them." So that's Raymond Flynn. Gay marriage was to go before the people in an even vote. Just let the people decide. But at the last minute, the gay mafia bought the votes of state representatives, up and down the line -- bought them lock, stock, and barrel, like cheap tricks in a gay bathhouse.
Oh my. Alright, here's some very brief rebuttal, as that's all we can muster:
- Yes, 170,000 residents signed a petition. But what is the estimated population of Massachusetts? 6,437,193! Out of that huge number, you can certainly find 170,000 registered voters to sign just about anything if you try hard enough (especially when your efforts include directly rallying whole church congreagations to support your endeavor). And this still leaves a HUGE portion that did not sign.
- The citizens did have a chace to weigh in -- THEY ELECTED THE LAWMAKERS!!!
- Civil rights matters should not be left to popular opinion
- Even if they WERE bought out, the lawmakers would be much more like high priced hookers on a gay cruise, not cheap tricks in a bathhouse.
And with that, we have nothing else to say on this. After all, if you truly consider Michael Savage to be a credible source of fair information, then as far as you're concerned, we might as well be talking in Martian.
Savage on same-sex marriage vote: "[G]ay mafia bought the votes ... like cheap tricks in a gay bathhouse" [Media Matters]
**For actuality regarding the Massachusetts marriage decision, checkout out our Massachusetts Gay Marriage Archive
Your thoughts
The first time I read it, I thought it said "Dan Savage," and that what was there was a parody--it wasn't until the end that I discovered that it was supposed to be serious! All I have to say is: Sheesh.
Posted by: Dan | Jun 18, 2007 11:50:23 PM
It's really very simple, Mr. "Savage". . .as if you didn't really know all of this anyway. Of course, you could have failed every American government class going back to grade school, but then the people who believe in a strong America kinda understand that the willingly ignorant are the authors of the corruption of democracy.
I'm still waiting for clods like Savage to tell us why its so important for rightwing clowns to VOTE on the marriages of others (but no one gets to vote on their own). . .or even how many of the marriage statutes were ever voted on by ALL the people to begin with? Seems to me that, in a society in which over 50% of the adult population is NOT married, we sure would like to have had a say about each of those 1,000 bennies the legislature handed to heteros just for mail ordering a bride and playing house. But no. . .we've never been allowed to vote on all of those rights, even the ones which govern how our own lives and decisions are handled.
Strangely enough, con-artist con-servatives never complain about not letting the PEOPLE vote on the special rights heterosexual married people get, even if they severely interfere with the basic life decisions of other people - or the MAJORITY - in the state. They only want a popular vote when it is against a tiny minority - a cynical, evil, despicable example of how much disdain they truly have for the principles of our country.
But then, they only approve of the vote if the people vote WITH them. We've seen examples of how these same con-artists start looking for an activist judge when the people approve domestic partnership registries. Remember that one, Mr. Savage? And remember how some of you "supporters" immediately tried to figure out a way to run ANOTHER referendum in Arizona as soon as the first one lost?
So let's get the picture in focus, Mr. Savage. Con-artist con-servatives only want people to have a voice when they have the chance to destroy the founding ideals of this nation again.
And now its time to ask why this clown is provided use of the public airwaves. It ain't like he's got a growing audience and it ain't like the audience he's got is gonna grow any more.
Posted by: Kevin | Jun 19, 2007 12:29:09 AM
I'm curious whether Savage was consistent with his reasoning when it came to the immigration bill. This bill was recently shot down in the Senate due to minority using parliamentary procedure to kill it instead of an up-or-down vote. Now since I didn't support the bill that's fine with me, but I have little problem with either instance here unlike Savage I'll warrant. For such an educated man you'd think he would be aware that this is not a democracy but a Republic. The People express their will through the representatives they elect into office. If they are displeased with their performance for any reason, they can always boot them out in the next election. Curiously though, an election has intervened since the last time this issue came up before and not enough pro-amendment legislators made it into office.
Posted by: John | Jun 19, 2007 1:39:04 AM
I don't recall being allowed to vote specifically on the measure to raise my state's speed limit from 60mph to 65mph. Nor do I recall having the chance to vote on the last appropriations bill. That's what we elect lawmakers to do...make laws. Why should this be any different?
And by the way, Mr. Savage, it's one hundred seventy thousand. Not one hundred AND seventy thousand. AND indicates a decimal point. My middle school math students know this.
Posted by: Jess | Jun 19, 2007 9:03:31 AM
I love how Savage and the other right-wing nutjobs think they are so much wiser than the framers of the Massachusetts Constitution, who decided that if a measure could not get the support of at least 25% of legislators in two consecutive years it wasn't worth wasting money and time on a vote by the people. This wasn't the result of parliamentary trick -- the supporters of the amendment just couldn't get the votes. (And, as others have noted, the people of Massachusetts ensured that they couldn't get the votes by voting out a bunch of amendment supporters.)
Posted by: JonboyDC | Jun 19, 2007 11:30:09 AM
They need to start publishing the real facts! The wingnuts want the marriage rights of 10% of the population (if not more) to be determined by the 2% of the population that signed the petition? Laughable! Thank the Gods for sensible people in the legislature!
Posted by: JJ | Jun 19, 2007 12:41:05 PM
Catholics, catholics and Catholicism...
And to think I usta could say the entire Rosary
both to and fro. AND believed.
Shame on us.
Posted by: has_te | Jun 19, 2007 10:00:11 PM
"Savage's" real name is Weiner. teehee
Posted by: Jenna's Bush | Jun 19, 2007 10:09:04 PM
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