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11/21/2007
He says we're outside God's normalcy realm, yet we're the 'name-callers'?
Recently we discovered that Peter LaBarbera of the so-called Americans For Truth group has launched a new site called Republicans For Family Values, an effort he claims is designed to promote "pro-natural-family and pro-life values in the GOP." And considering we frequently challenge and refute the anti-gay work of Mr. LaBarbera, we of course proceeded to respond to his new site. For starters, we pointed out how even though Peter keeps launching these "organizations," they are essentially just one-man blogs with P.O. boxes attached. We pointed out how silly the whole enterprise seemed. And we pointed out how we view Pete's new work as a potentially good thing, as we do think that extremists of his ilk are a liability to any GOP candidate looking for mainstream success. We stand by all that.
Well, Peter apparently thinks that even though he dedicates his daily existence to affronting us on a humanity level, we are somehow out of line for speaking out against his career of constantly and rabidly attacking our lives and loves. He has responded to the post we wrote on RFFV by saying the following:
Well, Republicans For Family Values has already attracted the attention of some homosexual activist bloggers. Jeremy Hooper of the “Good As You” blog wishes us success, albeit with his usual bitter twist. Thanks, Jeremy, sort of….
Hooper writes on learning of RFFV (emphasis added):
"We actually couldn’t be happier! After all, it takes a village to make the “pro-family” social conservatives and their political heroes look mean-spirited, discriminatory, and out-of-touch with American ideals. Thanks to Peter’s new foray, we’ll have another voice who’ll highlight just how crazy we’d all have to be in this country to even consider another president who caters to the true radical extremists of this world: those who have hijacked morality and placed themselves on a moral pedestal to which homosexuals and Democrats can never reach."
Love the subtlety. I suppose this is Jeremy’s version of re-stating the liberal bumper-sticker message: “Mean People Suck.” Half of liberal argumentation comes down to that. Yep, because we assert that homosexual behaivor is always wrong, we’re “mean,” discriminatory, and — oh yes – truly radical extremists. Ouch. Maybe Hooper should have named his site, “Better Than You,” to reflect the escalating hubris of the ‘GLBT’ movement.
I wonder, can the Left make a case that proud homosexuality is compatible with America’s Judeo-Christian tradition without resorting to name-calling and petty insults? (Or maybe they prefer to attempt to make a rational case for overturning our religiously-informed sexual values system.) Calling someone mean or extreme for holding a traditional, even Biblical, position — e.g., keeping marriage as man-woman — does not cut it as an argument.
Historically, we mean-spirited, extremist, right-wing discriminators have a basis for asserting that state-sanctioned homosexual relationships and legalized “same-sex marriage” are a revolutionary departure from Western legal tradition. Ditto for ”civil rights” based on homosexual “orientation” (itself a novel concept, historically speaking). On what basis do homosexual activists label defenders of our Judeo-Christian tradition as ‘extreme’?
Have at it, Jeremy. Or just keep calling us mean and extreme. That seems to be working for you. –Peter LaBarbera
Oh yes, because when we resist the constant barrage of attacks launched by those on the fringe, we are trying to say we're "Better than you." When we point out that there is a small but vocal group of TRULY radical people who would like to hijack both the GOP and Christianity, we are of course attacking people of faith and the Republican party. When we write years and years of posts challenging Peter and his ilk (in which we've almost never attacked anyone's character on a personal level), that entire canon can simply be summed up as "name-calling and petty insults." Or when we manage to keep a smile on our face when dealing with condemnations of our mortal existences and eternal souls, we are "bitter."
Yes, you've totally sized up the situation in and accurate manner, Pete, and proceeded to stick it to us good! Yawn.
This writer's emailed response to Pete:
Homosexual Activist Wishes ‘RFFV’ Well, then Calls Us ‘Mean’ [RFFV]
***For an example of the sort of stuff Pete says about us on daily basis, check out the following post. It further highlights just how absurd it is to call us the hubristic "name-callers" in all of this:
Wherein we re-Pete our stance [G-A-Y]
Your thoughts
I find it interesting that Peter claims all he does is point out that Homosexuality is wrong, if that was all he did, I would not care, unfortunately he spreads lies, like saying that Homosexuals are Child Molesters, in order to believe that you have to ignore the hundred of thousands of cases involving Heterosexual males, which I guess that is what he is doing. I guess "Thou shall not lie" does not apply to the Religious Right.
Posted by: Rob | Nov 21, 2007 4:16:06 PM
I e-mailed him myself, noting his posts end "comments off."
I asked him what good is it to have a blog if he doesn't interact with his readers?
Funny, isn't it, how people like Peety don't allow comments. What are they afraid of, I wonder?
I tried to sign up on the Exodus blog once. They sent me this form to "sign" saying I agreed with everything they say and do. I'm an honest person, so I didn't send it in. What a farce these people make of themselves.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Bill
Posted by: Bill Ware | Nov 21, 2007 8:29:22 PM
Re, comments off:
Bill, you said this was your reply* from Peter: "the fanatical gay activists would drive us crazy. Can't do it bec. of them. I'm not interested in having our site become a poster board for "gay" lies. Sorry about that."
Well I guess if we called lies "truth," and truth "lies," he would be right.
So what does he want us to do, give up the English language?
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* http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2007/11/pete-spreads-hi.html#comments
Posted by: Emproph | Nov 24, 2007 10:49:23 AM
I think Jeremy is right. Loud mouths without any real knowledge of issues who only have hatred in their hearts are pretty helpful to us. Pete = Republicanism. That gets us a lot of votes. Whee!
Posted by: ted | Nov 25, 2007 11:51:54 PM
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