Good As You

ugh .. windows xp? I can never get the audio files to play.

Oh, is that true, Gary? How annoying!

Th files can be accessed at the following links, if you really want to listen:

http://www.goodasyou.org/frc1.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc2.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc3.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc4.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc5.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc6.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc7.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc8.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc9.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc10.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc11.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc12.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc13.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc14.mp3
http://www.goodasyou.org/frc15.mp3

yeah, it is unfortunately true. And yes, I really want to hear this mess.

Thank You for the links!

Hmm...well it's probably more the browser you are using than it is XP. My XP laptop running Firefox can load them just fine.

Chai Feldblum, unfortunately comes across as confrontational and abrasive. . .given the environment she gets kudos.

Hasson should be a little bewildered, because he makes the case. Bringing up quakers who were a 2% minority and standing up for their rights on persecution grounds.

Stanton Collett pulls a bait and switch tactic on fertility. . .typical. . my question: "Doctor or a Minister?" . . .perhaps it's time to read the hippocratic oath. Same BS with pharmacists up here in WA.

Comparing fertilization to the death penalty?

And then the whole thing just disinigrates into the same "woe is me, christians are being bashed by the "homo-agenda".

You really think so? I didn't find her either abrasive or confrontation.

I think that Chai made her point very well. We need to discuss how we can "live together" rather than simply telling each other to "get over it."

I think, though, that she under-emphasizes the proclivity of many on the religious side to say "fuck off and die" rather than "get over it." That is effectively what they say when they attempt to usurp my basic civil rights in the name of their religious freedom.

And, to be fair, there are many on our side who express that same sentiment, but who would happily cease and desist in a more accepting environment.

Well . . .perhaps it's the recording, but yeah. . .that was my initial reaction.

Maybe "confrontational" wasn't the best choice of words. Given the audience. Defensive might be a better term.

Don't get me wrong, I think she did a great job. She made the point, but in context with this "panel" I think it fell on deaf ears. . .she sounded angry, and the moderator sounded patronizing.

I seriously hope I'm wrong.

For the video:

Chai's speech starts at 48:07

She was very pleasant, and you could tell she really cared about religious people's beliefs. She was also very animated.

I know Chai reads this blog, so I'll save the things I didn't like so much. Overall, she did a good job. Much better than I would have done. :)

Something interesting: at 57:20 there is a hard take right when she is about to make a point about the California ruling. Hmmmm...

Okay, I've finally been able to watch the video.

I was wrong. . .very wrong, and I apologize.

Chai was personable, courageous and impressive. We owe her a debt of gratitude.

and to the frc's credit, I don't think they did any creative editing.

"and to the frc's credit, I don't think they did any creative editing."

Agreed, Gary. Actually, the whole thing was uncharacteristically civil for FRC.