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Video: Be careful which clocks you wanna roll back!

by Jeremy Hooper

The pertinent part of this video begins around the :45 mark and ends around the two minute one. Watch it and then we'll get back to you:

Alright, so Pastor Carolyn Broom is taking the hetero-only marriage view. Surprise, surprise. But what really annoys us about this presentation is the fact that an African-American female preacher is being so freaking glib about society's changing times, making it sound as if she would actually want society to regress by 200 years! Because maybe our American history is a little off, but we don't remember 1808 being a particularly good year for (a) African-Americans in general; (b) females aspiring to most any position, much less that of faith leader; (c) African-Americans wishing for free rein in terms of the freedom to marry who they choose; or (d) African-Americans or females who felt that their votes should be counted just like those of the white man. And we're not so sure Pastor Broom would be resorting to such fear-mongery predictions in a world where her own life is filled with tyrannical unfairness!

Society changes because it NEEDS TO CHANGE! Pastor Broom is acting like same-sex unions are the silliest, most ridiculous, possibly even most disgusting concept she has ever had to bring across her lips. But why? What gives her the right to act as if the legal recognition of one certain sect of the population's couplings is a notion that was birthed on Planet Crazy?! Gays exist. Their love exists. A civil contract known as marriage is part of our society's way of doing things. When one factors in those easily understandable concepts, the nutty idea is not marriage equality for same-sex couples. The nutty idea is that it has taken us this damn long to get to this point!

A Climate Change, Gay Marriage - Pastor Carolyn Broom [GodTube]

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Your thoughts

Pastor Broom has a very handy web page for sending comments, so I just sent the following to her:

Hi Pastor Broom, I just watched your "A Climate Change" video, and am a bit perplexed. You seem to advocate rolling back the time to a point in history where you don't need to deal with questions about same-sex marriage. I would think that you, of all people, would be much less inclined to do that.

Women in this country have only had the right to vote for about 90 years, so you probably don't want to go back that far. African Americans suffered under separate but equal nonsense until the 1960's, and let's not even get into what the founding-fathers thought about that.

I would really suspect that you don't yearn for those earlier times, but rather are merely pandering to the lowest common denominator of fear and hate. And, it is very effective. And, I have heard that, "Love the sinner, hate the sin" nonsense, which is just a rationalization for hate, in my mind.

When Jerry Falwell's segregationist leanings were no longer politically expedient, he selected abortion and homosexuality as the hot button topics that he could exploit. You might want to start looking in earnest for another target now, because as effective as same-sex marriage is today, it looks like the tide might be turning the other direction.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Aug 22, 2008 6:18:25 PM

Eh, just remind "Pastor" Carolyn (look! we can use scare quote too!) to heed St. Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 14:33-37. Isn't she supposed to keep her yap shut and let MISTER Broom speak for her - especially in church? For that matter, her head looks a lil bare which the good Apostle taught was a serious no-no (see 1 Corinthians 11:3-16).

Nothing like Christians who complain about others supposedly not following a literal interpretation of the Bible when they themselves do not.

Posted by: John | Aug 22, 2008 7:02:30 PM


Those are two of my favorite "debunk verses" for those times when I must talk to fundamentalists about LGBT issues. Many of them would NEVER act on those directives, and they're often surprised to hear them as part of the Bible.

Then, of course, the explanation in terms of the then-contemporary culture can make for a great teachable moment. (Depending on who it is that you are dealing with.)

Posted by: PSUdain | Aug 23, 2008 1:32:47 AM

I also find her equation of bestiality with homosexuality to be interesting.

The religious pull out the same tired arguments all the time. First it was Leviticus, now it's the bestiality.

Posted by: Reverend Antonino Stefano Pelliccia | Aug 23, 2008 9:49:21 AM

Yeah, see, we have to define in the constitution for all eternity what marriage is and who can enter and what not, and tell those uppity future generations (crazy people maybe, you don't know!) what makes a family and how to organise their society, because see, our society is PARFACT!

I agree with John, shut up, you're a woman! Live by the bible or cut the self-righteous nonsense.

Posted by: Willie Hewes | Aug 23, 2008 1:32:05 PM

I'd just like to know where the Constitution talks about marriage...I'm being serious, is it anywhere in the Constitution? She seems to think it is.

Posted by: Chris (in Columbus) | Aug 23, 2008 10:50:50 PM

I truly don't understand how African-Americans can actually say that we need to follow the original intent of the Founding Fathers! THEY WEREN'T EVEN CONSIDERED PEOPLE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

"How far back do you want to go Blanche? Do you still want to be able to vote?"

Posted by: stojef | Aug 23, 2008 11:13:51 PM

"I agree with John, shut up, you're a woman! Live by the bible or cut the self-righteous nonsense."

Oh there's plenty to choose from to show the hypocrisy of "Pastor" Carolyn & Co. Since we have to protect the sanctity of marriage - as traditionalist Christians view this institution to be - through force of law, why aren't so-called pro-family groups advocating abolishing most divorces? Putting aside the Catholic view that once married always married until "death do us part", a literal view of the NT shows that there are only two possible reasons for divorce: adultery (see Matthew 5:31-32) and a non-Christian spouse desiring dissolution of the marriage (see the so-called Pauline Privilege in 1 Corinthians 7:10-15). If these folks are going to be consistent, why aren't they pushing to have divorce outlawed in all cases except for these two conditions? For that matter, Catholic groups should be pusing to abolish ALL divorces with no exceptions.

No, this is all about the nasty gays.

Posted by: John | Aug 25, 2008 4:53:18 PM

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