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They rob us of right to protect our families, yet we're the 'frightening' ones!?

by Jeremy Hooper

Picture 7-144Reacting to the gay activist community's outrage over the Mormon church's crucial role in passing Prop 8, Focus on the Family's Caleb Price shares the following thoughts and fears:

"Who will they come after next?" he asked. "Gay activists and their allies are doing the very thing they accuse others of doing to them — bullying and harassing those who hold differing viewpoints.

"The irony is striking and even a little bit frightening."

We reply:

'I deserve civil equality under the law, and my court-backed rights should not be decided upon by a majority vote.'


'My faith-based views should permit me to tyrannically stifle others' lives and families.'
These are indeed 'differing viewpoints,' Caleb. However, they aren't simple points on which we can agree to disagree, then go to our local watering hole and laugh at our differences over beer and tater skins. They are ideas in which one side is clearly wrong. They are ideas where one side is persecutory, while the other is simply playing defense. They are unequal viewpoints, with the latter's patently offensive inequality robbing those who embrace the former of the ability, desire, and reason to treat the former with even a tinge of reverence!

What's 'frightening' and 'striking,' Caleb, is that your team seems to be wholly lacking in true respect or compassion for our lives and loves. Not "pro-family" compassion, which means we have to 'find Jesus' in order to receive blessing, but TRUE compassion. There is none within the 'pro-family' ranks. You deny us of our humanity and then, when we step up and say, '
hey, no, we actually enjoy our existences,' we are accused of being 'militant.' Regardless of the cards, the "pro-family" side always presents itself as the victim. When gays win a court case, 'pro-fams' are the victims. When pro-gay policies lead them to boycott, 'pro-fams' are the victims. When acceptance is taught in schools, 'pro-fams' are the victims. When a gay man is beaten or murdered and scrutiny is placed on those who fought against acceptance in schools, "pro-fams" still present themselves as the victims. The situation doesn't matter -- the script has already been written. And here we find ourselves yet again, gays are standing up in opposition to the offenses that have been waged against them, and your side, Caleb, is one who's supposedly the terrified, frightened, victim. It is disgusting, both the predictability and the failure to understand who is truly being hurt in this so-called 'culture war'!

Who will we 'come after next'? Well Caleb, as always, that depends on who chose to come after us FIRST!

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These "people" may be disgusting and hateful, but they're not stupid (at least not their leaders). They know that acting like the victim is the only way to have any credibility, but more and more people see through their lives and they keep grasping at less and less straws. Their days are numbered.

Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Nov 10, 2008 8:00:52 PM

Karl Rove may no longer be the puppet master but his students do him proud. Karl is a master at using words directed at a specific demographic that flies under the radar of most listening.

And Caleb Price is doing it with the "Who will they come after next?" His purpose in phrasing that question the way he did is to trigger the Martin Niemöller "First they came..." poem to the fore of his sympathizers minds

Posted by: Jon-Marc | Nov 10, 2008 8:58:47 PM

RP -

Let's hope.

I keep seeing that still photo of those a-holes jumping up and down at passage prop 8. I see it in my sleep and wake up. For days.

They think that they've won something.

I hope they've won their own demise.


Posted by: dave b | Nov 10, 2008 9:16:13 PM

Caleb Price, the only possible way in which you could benefit the world would be by committing suicide. Go kill yourself.

Posted by: aaa | Nov 10, 2008 9:53:58 PM

dave b
The latest national poll I saw a couple months ago showed that 52% percent support full marriage rights for us. I think the margin of error was in the 3% area. That's much better than the twenty-something we had four years ago. Their demise is likely to happen within the next ten years. As long as we keep fighting we can't help but win.

Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Nov 10, 2008 10:33:40 PM


Your comment about the whole 'playing the victim' reminded me of the news story recently of the little old lady who walked into the middle of a No on 8 crowd carrying a giant cross. Then the anti-gay bitch had the gall to act like the victim because she was a little old lady for the news cameras. She was provoking them, what the hell did she expect?

Posted by: aaa | Nov 10, 2008 11:01:02 PM


It's the standard bully's tactic. Cause trouble behind the back of whoever's in charge, then act like the victim when the real victim fights back.

Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Nov 10, 2008 11:17:22 PM

so often the fundies don't realize that they created the gay community. Outside of our sexual appetites(and even that's debatable) we have almost nothing in common. But because folks like Caleb saw fit to try to take our rights away, or prevent us from sharing equality with him, we were forced to band together, to unite for a common cause, to fight a common enemy. The Rainbow is our symbol because we come from every walk of life.

If there hadn't been so much shame dumped on us we would not need a Pride Parade. If parents just loved their kids for being kids, there'd be no need for PFLAG. If kids could see the value in diversity and just get along there'd be no need for GLSEN. IF we hadn't been dragged through the mud in literature and media there'd be no need for GLADD.

And finally, if we were truly equal, Jeremy would have to have a blog about something else entirely. Or perhaps Jeremy and his fiance (no quotes, ever) could spend their time on something much much more fun, rather than worrying about if their marriage is going to be legal, or sorta legal, or kinda legal, or almost as legal.

Every day I get up in the morning and read blogs and news, not because it's fun, or because I'm very interested in current events, but because I have to keep track of my rights. I'm forced to keep up on current events, because if I don't, I may wake up tomorrow to a very rude awakening.
I wish I could be like so many other people i know, blissfully walking around not caring, tra-la-la-ing through life secure in the assumption that their rights are safe from the chopping block.

But I can't.

Posted by: Jason D | Nov 11, 2008 9:31:26 AM

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