Good As You

What about the first amendment don't they understand? There'd still be freedom of religion and speech whether there's gay marriage or not.

They could still be bigoted to their little hearts content.

I sent the following in an email to ABC. (500 character limits suck.)

I'm amazed at the ignorance shown by the hosts of The View on the subject of gay marriage. Being jailed for speaking against homosexuality is a free speech issue, not a gay rights issue.

Calling it anything but marriage is unacceptable. Separate but equal is inherently unequal.

The subject of gay civil marriage has nothing to do with religious marriage.

Finally, a tip for Sherri: You may know gays as coworkers or relatives, but you aren't being a friend if you want to remove their rights.

They just don't get it, civil marriage and religious marriage are not the same. Religious officials can deny marriage based on their beliefs. Is it religious discrimination when the Catholic Church says that a marriage cannot be carried out if one of the persons is not baptized? The Catholic Church can also deny a marriage in cases where progeny is not possible due to impotence.

I use the Catholic Church as an example because I was raised Catholic. I'm not going to debate whether it's right or wrong, but there are established precedents where religious institutions can deny marriage based on belief structures. So why all of a sudden will they be forced into offering gay marriage?

This all just so frustrating.

Sometimes I just want to scream, but of course I would probably be accused of being a screaming queen. My church was able to marry the hubby and me despite our state having a DOMA. If they could do that, any church could refuse to marry us.

As for adoption, that is even crazier. We raised two children, but legally I am their only parent. The really weird part, my partner cannot make my final arrangements. One of the children would have to do that. Even weirder, neither the children or I can make my partner's final arrangements. A distant cousin would have to make his arrangements.

Can we talk about insurance? My employer is great. I can carry health and dental insurance on my husband, but I have to pay taxes on my employer's contribution which is significant.

I'm normally an easy going guy, but I've been mad since Tuesday night. Barack Obama's election was wonderful, but then we got hit with Proposition 8. Proposition 8 wouldn't have any effect here in Minnesota, but I'm really mad. I contributed money to the fight already, and I will continue to do so.

Okay, I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Well, it's not unusual for Elisabeth to bear false witness - the woman never met a fact that she wasn't willing to twist for her political agenda. But Shepherd is just the most willfully ignorant "celebrity" I've ever seen - and certainly not a "Christian." It offends me deeply when someone who is a member of an ethnic group which constantly reminds us of their ancestral suffering is so flippant about the suffering of others.

It does continue to astound me how many of the people who CLAIM such a deep connection to "religious" marriage don't seem to know anything about the history of the institution.

Maybe someone needs to pass a proposition requiring every one of those straight applicants for a "marriage" license pass a goddamned course on marriage. How can all of these straight people know so little?

Mike...do not get off the soapbox....get on a higher ONE!! That is what would have won PROP H8 for us..people like you TELLING THEIR STORIES. According to arguments...I mean discussions I had during the campaign..it was just a long list of excuses with the refusal to admit it was just bigoted homophobia. BLATANT bigotry. We need more and more and more openness from GAYS at all levels, especially those closeted in Xtian churches. ...
And they will need support when they come out so get ready all GLBT and Aliies..roll up your sleeves.. (kiss your SO) ...and lets get to work.

First off Jesus never mentioned gay people so if you follow Christ you wouldn't hate...Second Jeremy I think perhaps you should go on "The View" and do a segment....perhaps you could explain all these fallicies...
But considering you'd have to convince someone who thinks the earth is @ 5 thousand years old literally, you'd have a hard time......I love the old I'm not a racist I have many friends who are are black, latin, asian, gay, whatever.... excuse sherrie tried to use when talking about her cousin I wonder how he and his Partner feel about her ignorance?!?!?!....

Hasselbeck... sigh. Where does she get her info, from the Westboro Baptist Church?

We don't even have gay marriage in Sweden, only civil unions. It looks like it will be legalized in 2009 or 2010. Many countries and some American states beat us to it, so Sweden isn't quite the bastion of gay rights that people like Hasselbeck and Phelps make it out to be.

As for Åke Green, he never served any time. He was acquitted in the Supreme Court.

Where is the contact info for the View? I don't see it on their web page. I want to send them a >500 word piece of my mind. Thanks.

You can complain to ABC about The View spreading anti-gay marriage lies and propaganda...

http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html

You can also contact Sherri Shepherd directly through her website...

http://www.sherrishepherd.com/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=2&Itemid=3