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Video: Schoolyard bully pulpit

by Jeremy Hooper

Dr. John Hagee one gave Jesse Duplantis the nickname, "The Apostle of Joy."  After watching the following clip of the Trinity Broadcast Network televangelist in action, we can think of a few more sentiments towards which the reverend is applying his apostolicity: 

We're not sure which is worse: The mocking voice, the absurd logic that our "equipment" somehow negates homosexuality's existence along the spectrum of normalcy, the way he conveys these condemnatory thoughts while trying to make a point about not judging people whose shoes you've never walked in, the resounding audience laughter, or the fact that all involved would surely hide the disrespect behind a veil of Christian love.  But hey, why choose?  Just like with children, one need not play favorites when assessing the displays that most fully force gay children to grow up on a shame spiral.

Homosexuality by Jesse Duplantis [YouTube]

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It's stupidity that gets spewed from the mouths of idiots like this minister that not only gives religion a bad name but also makes people who are Christians look like buffoons. The news media needs to cover more of mainline Christianity like the United Church of Christ, The United Methodist Church, Evangelicals Concerned, SoulForce and many other awesome Christian Churches and organizations that embrace GLBT people for who we are as God's children. It's about time that this happened.

Posted by: Benjamin | Dec 26, 2008 4:24:00 PM

wow, a stupid swishy polar bear queen at the pulpit preaching to a bunch of ignorant fat asses in the pews. Charming!

Posted by: john ozed | Dec 27, 2008 11:46:58 AM

I followed the counter from youtube because I was wondering why I was getting so many hits on this video, it's because someone put it on this site. Thank you. Please visit myspace.com/how2b and click on videos near my picture and you will see this as well as other videos from Jesse Duplantis and Miles McPhearson, two of my favorite preachers. I used to be involved in homosexuality. I am now a Christian, and I realize that I wasn't properly trained when I was young, helping me to fall into many hurtful sins. Please read my two blogs to find easy ways to learn the Bible. Thank you.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 27, 2008 8:34:25 PM

Oh, Darrell. Please promise me you'll at least give our side's reasoning a fighting chance.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Dec 28, 2008 12:10:52 AM

Been there, done that.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 28, 2008 9:26:31 AM

Fair enough, Darrell. If you want to follow "values" people who mock gays with the sort of anti-intellectual logic that Mr. Duplantis is using here, or who refer to gays with words like "satanic" and "roaches" (something we have Miles McPherson on record doing: http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2008/11/audio-eavesdrop.html ; http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2008/07/god-said-mad-at.html), then far be it from us to stop you.

Good luck and happy new year to ya!

Posted by: G-A-Y | Dec 28, 2008 9:31:52 AM

I could not find any audio by Miles Miles McPhearson saying "satanic" or "roaches" in reference to gays. I do know that I can sin by what I say. Rather than lie, I can say "I'd rather not say." I must strive to never speak against anyone unjustly. I also believe in what Miles has said "don't be phoney, keep it real." The Bible says to speak the truth in love; everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak, and slow to wrath. I can protect myself, but I must strive to do it in a non-vengeful way.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 28, 2008 12:46:01 PM

McPherson in July, speaking about gay couples marrying in CA:

"Marriage is a picture of Christ and His Bride, the Church. And the devil wants to destroy the church -- as a matter of fact, Satan wants to destroy God's image. The evil one is having a field day right now, and I believe things are going to get worse before they get better"

McPherson on Nov 1, speaking at the anti-marriage equality "The Call" event:
"What we are going to do is pray and worship, and the roaches are gonna run, the demons are gonna run."

Both clips can be found at links provided in previous comment.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Dec 28, 2008 12:53:22 PM

I downloaded the audio player but I still couldn't get the audio to work. I think that Jesse Duplantis' logic was purposely simplistic. A square peg can't fit into a round hole. Which on is the more logical, a pole in a hole, or a pole in a bum hole? Which one is able to produce offspring? Which one is more hygenic? Which one is more pleasurable? Most importantly, which one is listed as a sin in the Bible?

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 28, 2008 4:35:46 PM

"A square peg can't fit into a round hole. Which on is the more logical, a pole in a hole, or a pole in a bum hole? Which one is able to produce offspring? Which one is more hygenic? Which one is more pleasurable? Most importantly, which one is listed as a sin in the Bible?"

WOW! Darrell, that's brilliant! Why didn't any of us ever think of it THAT way before? You've changed me around completely! Thanks, man. Tell me, how many offspring have you sired? Or, maybe you aren't married? How many bum holes have you poled? You've probably plugged many a hole of the fairer sex as well? Just trying to figure out from whence this well of knowledge you cite springs?

Posted by: Dick Mills | Dec 28, 2008 7:38:08 PM

Dick: Well I'm still hung up on the "Which one is more pleasurable?" question. You can call my sex life immoral all you want, but its pleasures are undeniable (and amazing!!)

Posted by: G-A-Y | Dec 28, 2008 7:44:49 PM

JH, I was just repeating Darrell's statement. I just want him to explain where he gets his vast knowledge of the subject.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Dec 28, 2008 8:10:35 PM

I have no offspring that I am aware of. I am not married. I already stated that I used to be involved with homosexuality. Let's just say that I believe that sex with a woman is the most pleasurable. Here's more logic. I heard that if a man were gay at 20 and remained gay for the rest of his life that he would die about 25 years sooner than a hetrosexual man. Also I believe that the Bible says that if any sinner does not repent before he dies, that he will spend the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, (hell). Please put your faith in Jesus, faithfully study your Bible, and practice fitness daily.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 28, 2008 8:10:45 PM

Dick: No, I know. I'm saying that was the part of his comment that got me. I meant "you" as in "one," not you in particular

Posted by: G-A-Y | Dec 28, 2008 8:15:55 PM

So, Darrell, are you currently having sex with anyone? If not, how long has it been? Or, is it more pleasurable dancin' with yourself?

Posted by: Dick Mills | Dec 28, 2008 8:46:13 PM

Darrell is misinformed on the issue of life expectancy. He's no doubt quoting the widely discredited claim by Paul Cameron.
I'm not even going to bother adressing the rest of what he says.

Posted by: Bill S | Dec 28, 2008 9:21:07 PM

I am not having sex with anyone. It's been about 18 years since I've had any kind of real sex with anyone, and about the same amount of time since I've danced with myself. Lust is a constant struggle, especially surfing the net. My power thougths, (which I constantly strive to repeat to myself), begin with: Image, (pictures, tv, ect.), lustless Jesus...(they along with Christianity, (esp. the ESV Max McLean 62 CD audio Bible; the Sin-Free Living/Strength and Courage Know No Gender DVD's at jdm.org; the song Trust by Megadeth)), and fitness are some of the major tools helping to stay away from internet porno lust. I have prayed for a wife. The Bible says that a prudent wife is a gift from the lord. Staying busy helps the time pass.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 28, 2008 9:21:38 PM

So, Darrell, you just haven't found the right girl? Maybe you just aren't interested in girls? Maybe the whole "procreative" aspect of sexual contact that you mentioned isn't really a motivating factor in your life?

And, I'm curios now if your last sexual partner was a woman or a man? Maybe you didn't enjoy same-sex contact as well because you weren't doing it properly. I know that I enjoy it quite a bit - top, bottom, upside down, on airplanes . . . I could go on and on.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Dec 28, 2008 9:43:10 PM

I have been super-naturally healed physically more than once, but I still need more physical healing to have the confidence to be with a woman. I'm defintely interested in girls. I don't really care if I ever have children. My last, what I would call anything close to a normal sexual encounter, was with a woman, about 18 years ago. Doing sex properly is basically how the Bible says to do it, to me.
Basically, 18 years ago I had hit rock bottom, made a deal with God, started exercising, eating healthier, eventually quit smoking, quit getting wasted, eventually quit all drugs except for an occasional small swig of whiskey, and eventually began studying Christianity, (for about 9 years now), faithfully. My dad basically said that after 30 it gets easier.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 28, 2008 11:05:23 PM

Wow, Darrell, I really feel for you man. I hope that you eventually find what you need. If you're happy where you are, then that is all that anyone can expect. And, I do wish you the best.

If you're the "poster boy" for gay conversion therapy, then I have to say, that there aren't many people who are willing to give up sex for 18 years. For me (and many of us) it would have to be forever - so I'm not going to sign up. You also might want to see a doctor, because waiting for 18 years for god to fix you, seems a bit much. He might have gotten distracted with other concerns or fallen asleep or something. Just sayin', there might be a more expedient alternative.

And while there may be some, percentage wise, there aren't that many GLBT persons who are so affected that we can't thrive with a same-sex relationship. The more open and honest that we (as a group) are, the easier it is for others to accept who they are. When we accept ourselves, it really doesn't matter that much what others think, not even what the religious leaders have told us all of our lives.

I, personally, don't need the approval of the religious to be able to enjoy my life. I also am capable of critical thought, and so the lies and promises of religion are wasted on me - and I don't think I am alone in that.

But on that life-expectancy statistic that you religious types keep throwing out, you should know that it is just a lie. There is no credible evidence that there is any difference in life span between GLBT persons and non/ex/post-GLBT persons. And many (if not most) of us know that. We know that when that statistic comes out, the person who throws it out is either extremely deluded or is a blatant liar. I have the feeling that you heard it from someone that you trust, and accepted it as truth, but just for your information, it isn't true.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Dec 29, 2008 7:17:54 AM

I must give Jesus all the glory and bow out gentlemen. I have strove to be honest without revealing anything that I do not want revealed. Please feel free to use any of my videos at youtube.com/darrellabeyta, (or at darrellabeyta.youtube.com, I'm not sure witch), and my blogs, wallpaper, and videos at myspace.com/how2b, goodbye.

Posted by: Darrell | Dec 29, 2008 7:18:05 AM

Wow - I love that whole pro-creation.... I always thought God gave us sex as re-creation. I love creating god given pleasure over and over and over.

BTW - either God royally screw up making me Gay, we are all doomed. Either case, I'm still not going to drink the kool-aid.

Posted by: Eddie Keator | Dec 29, 2008 7:18:05 AM

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