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Video: We all should all 'come together'...to hear someone who compares us to incestuous couples

by Jeremy Hooper

Obama addresses the Warren fiasco:

(Warren part begins around 2:30)

Hey, Hope-y: We gays are not an "agree to disagree" issue! WE ARE HUMAN-F***ING-BEINGS! And our view of "change" celebrate those who would surely like to do the same to us!!

Maybe when someone compares you and Michelle to a married brother and sister, then you will get why this is such a big deal, Mister O! We gays, however, already get it. Oh, and we are pissed.

12/18 Obama Briefing [YouTube]

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I wonder if they'll be trying to figure out how to "include" Phelps and the Westboro clan next.

Posted by: Gary | Dec 18, 2008 12:38:34 PM

We can disagree without being disagreeable. So comparing same sex marriage to child rape and incest seems to be agreeable to this administration.

My heart is breaking.

Posted by: John Ozed | Dec 18, 2008 12:58:29 PM

Jeremy, I just linked to all these Rick Warren posts. Maybe one or two more will come over and read.

Posted by: deb | Dec 18, 2008 1:59:13 PM

I am truly disappointed and I had hoped for better from Mr. Obama. This just goes to show how much work we have left to do.

The majority of people still don't get that being gay is not a social issue to be debated like healthcare reform, welfare and the like. This isn't about the best way to provide services to people. This is about the equality and dignity of the people themselves. Mr. Obama has effectively said that our human dignity is something that people can disagree over. He may believe that but I don't.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 18, 2008 2:35:43 PM

There is, indeed, that angle, that we are fellow human beings, not an abstract social issue where it's no big deal to disagree.

There's also the angle that if Obama truly means what he says about his administration being so inclusive and open to different points of view, why, then oh why, would he be giving such a prominent soapbox (and tacit endorsement) to someone who wants to much to be EXCLUSIVE???

Posted by: JWSwift | Dec 18, 2008 6:14:45 PM

obama = worthless empty suit

Posted by: TheRadicalRealist | Dec 18, 2008 6:16:34 PM

I think Barack Obama is doing exactly what he said he would do - and that is to hold dialogue and interaction with those of different views and philosophies.

You don't impact or change someone's mind by attacking them, kicking them to the curb and putting the brakes on developing conversation.

Warren defied conservatives by inviting Obama to his church during its AIDS summit. Conservatives did not want Obama there because he supports abortion choice. Warren did the right thing; and Obama is doing the right thing too - we're just too angry and frustrated to see it.

A pertinent fact that no one in the gay community seems to notice or talk about is that the minister offering Obama's inaugural benediction is an African-American, civil rights pioneer who supports gays and gay marriage. How come no one in the gay community is calling attention to that fact - or even discussing it?

How inflexible can we be? Has any other American President-elect included gays along with "black, white, Asian, Native-American, straight...." in his victory/acceptance speech???

For eight years I have grown sick of the far right's nitpicking, sniping and out of touch methods. Apparently, as the election demonstrated, quite a few Americans felt the same way. It hasn't even been 8 weeks since Obama's election and we on the far left are already doing a far imitation of right wing carping - mostly about nothing.

We, gays have got to find a better way to establish who we are and why we deserve what others take for granted. We must come up with credible outreach to introduce all that we are and educate those who voted against us. This ludicrous uproar over whom prays over Obama is not helping. Warren and the mole hill mountain he is being turned to is a petty and insignificant subject in the scheme of things.

Give Obama a chance. And if we are going to pick our fights - let's make them better ones than Warren.

Posted by: OrchidIslander | Dec 19, 2008 7:41:41 AM

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