Good As You

HOW JH? Just how do we stop it? I think the only way is to continue to Demonstrate that ALL Love is good ALL love matters...and tell them to stay out of our bedrooms..Course I guess since the Peter is in there filming as we speak, getting his jollies, or whatever that will be difficult. We need fine, upstanding GLBTQ' and ALL Theri Allies..to keep saying over and over no one has a right to dictate their morality to others....and as Cizik mentioned the younger Evangelicals are seeing the huge schism between the way Marriage should be honored and how it is practiced by the majority of Evangelicals themselves who practice adultery and get divorced etc.
We may need to hire Jon Stewart...he is really good at this!

Those "Hate the sinner; love to hate!" people. Attrition, eventually, is going to take care of most of the buggers, just doesn't seem to be nearly fast enough. This is pretty morbid, but I got an email about this a day or two ago:

According to death rate data provided by the California Department of Public Health, over a third of those over 65 die each year. If you applied these deaths rates to voters in this age group, over two years, deaths could eliminate 1.5 million voters over 65 -- which would suggest 900,000 yes on Prop. 8 voters and only 600,000 no voters, for a net loss of 300,000 votes for the yes side.

http://www.capitolweekly.net/article.php?_adctlid=v|jq2q43wvsl855o|xm3sknqcdr93zb&issueId=xm3ct78awlt3q7&xid=xm3eayd01297pi

That, plus the fact that younger voters overwhelmingly support us, could put the hatemongering hordes out of business. At least in California, and probably (eventually) everywhere.

This is the kind of nonsense that has prompted me to literally scream out things like, "I don't want to be 'loved'! I am not your project! I am a FELLOW LAW-ABIDING ADULT CITIZEN!"

Thank you for articulating exactly what disgusting hatred lies behind that very, very, even-thinner-than-eggshell veneer of "love".

These people need to be locked away in a mental hospital somewhere, so they can no longer be a threat to young LGBT people.

I really needed to read this 'cause I've been PISSED OFF all week. Thank you.

You write a very poignant piece here! Coming from a fundamentalist, charismatic, literal interpretation of the Bible background and one who has survived ex-gay ministries and lived to tell about their lies, i am so sick of these self-righteous people who deal with spousal abuse and divorce in their ranks! i was suicidal years ago because i was told my same sex attractions were sinful, not real love, codependent, and God id not love me if i 'acted'out on my feelings. i can't take these people who think they have the entire Bible interpreted as to what they think God intended and have everything in life all neatly figured out. i question and doubt and know i do not have all the answers. So, i wish these people would leave us alone.

i think of Anita Bryant from the film Milk who spewed hate and ignorance. It never seems to stop and it gets so tiring.

Thank you for your post!

Adele

"This cocksure attitude about our "wrong way to love" is what leads so many gay people to reject love altogether, living and dying in a world of shame. That should raise the eyebrows of any truly moral individual."

Wow, I never thought of that, but it sure explains some people I know. A friend of ours has no problem watching porn, but will not watch any movie that even hints at two men being in love. He was reluctant to attend our wedding, and I suppose the reason was that he would have to acknowledge our love for one another.

Those so called Christians should be concerned with bringing people to Christ, but they are doing everything they can to drive LGBT people away. It's no wonder that so many gay men and women have Bible Burn. When they do come across a congregation that accepts everyone just as they are, it's too late.

Christians who hold this point of view don't love gays, they love the idea of loving gays (the sense of self affirmation knowing they struggled to love what is detestable to the), and while there spitting in our face may be passed off by them as simply removing the dirt from our eyes it is us, and our community, who deals with the consequences of such biggoted and degrading beliefs selfishly hidden behind some immoral mythology. Take responsibility for your beliefs and convictions beyond your false message of love expect them as your own you cowered, us homosexuals have to do it everyday with our lives and loved ones.
We do not want your love if it comes at the expense of acceptance, it is hallow and meaningless. Nor can you understand us when your only desire is to define us by your narrow terms of self interest, we are not sad and angry homosexuals because its convenient to your preconceptions. You do not come from a place of knowing and understanding, you cant possible know till you place yourself in front of one of us and learn what we have to teach you (its not enough to pretend that your the only ones with something to teach). If you can not see the value in that then our differences are irreconcilable.

Jeremy,

I agree with you completely and as usual you express the case eloquently. These folks do not love gays and their actionss to demonize us and portray us as sinners is hate based regardless of the disingenuous lip service they give to "loving" gays. They and their words are evil.

What a load of crap. Homosexuals defile love? That excerpt from the Christian Post defiles logic.

Well, that was inspiring! I have been blogging about Gay rights on my Live Journal for a little while now, mostly preaching to the choir, as the majority of my friends are like-minded folk (and I think the rest just ignore me for the most part), but it's been good practice!

However, I come at this from the perspective of a Christian sister to a gay man, whom I love dearly. It is both frustrating and advantageous, as it puts me in the position to reason with perhaps a better understanding of where "they" are coming from, for I am both one of "them" and one of "us."

I went to the site, and I think I have posted one of my best commentaries yet. Please check it out (user name Bonnie_Halfelvn).

This will come across as completely moronic to you because I am explaining in great detail to "them" what is so completely obvious to "us!"