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02/09/2009
The Sam & Sandy 'you're wrong/no I'm not' hour
What follows is a brief snippet of anti-gay activist Sandy Rios describing a recently-taped "Tyra Banks Show" episode on which she was featured. Specifically she's addressing the moments that she shared with noted gay entertainer Sam Harris:
Sam Harris, a fabulous singer from the Star Search years, has adopted a baby girl with his male partner. His passionate and angry outburst on YouTube at the passage of Proposition 8 in California—defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman—was the next feature.
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I looked to Sam who began shouting at me for being a bigoted homophobe—just like the perpetrators of racial hatred in the civil rights era. I reached out for his elbow and he snarled, “Don’t touch me!” As he continued to yell and accuse, I asked, “Sam, why is it you can’t have a conversation? Why is it you can talk but seem unable to listen?” He moved on angrily.
Tyra Banks: Is Gay the New Black? [Townhall]
This is Sam describing the same show:
So who was really out of line? Was Sam's anger perfectly understandable? We'll have to wait until the "Tyra" show airs to find out the the truth.
But one thing's for certain: By virtue of her appearance on the show to defend anti-gay bias, Sandy is automatically in the wrong. And any gay person who refuses to have a conversation with her about whether or not they're a demon should do so without apology.
**NOTE: Also, Sandy says that she touted this claim during her appearance:
Sandy: “The Boy from Minnesota” from the recently-nominated movie “Milk” was 17 when Harvey Milk, the first openly gay city commissioner from San Francisco, befriended him. Girard Dols has now left the homosexual lifestyle and is a chaplain in Wisconsin. It is possible to change.”
See this post (and especially the comments section) for that flaw: Dols claims (A) that he was 'Milk' boy, (B) that he's no longer buying the cow [G-A-Y]
We'll have MUCH MORE to say on that angle when this episode airs!
Your thoughts
To cite Reagan - there they go again. Glenn Stanton and James Nicolosi did the same thing on Dr. Phil. They try to flip the script and whine that "they just want to have a conversation."
I think sometimes they say outrageous things to goad us into screaming at them. Then they can play like they are innocent. Anything to distract from the fact that they have no justifiable argument. The best thing would be to let them make their points but jump in when they try to hog up the entire program and refute them.
Posted by: a. mcewen | Feb 9, 2009 7:55:36 PM
Is it just me or does the link to the Dols story not work?
Posted by: Kamikapse | Feb 9, 2009 11:53:38 PM
Oops. Link fixed.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Feb 10, 2009 5:35:43 AM
Time is running out and they know it. Angrily grasping at straws as they sink in their ignorance and hatred.
Posted by: John Ozed | Feb 10, 2009 9:40:33 AM
What drives me crazy is that talk show hosts - probably because they are not hired for having brains - NEVER directly cconfront the Christianists with the fact that NONE of the legitimate mentl health and medical experts suport their "change myth" story line. NONE.
If the media would do this - which IS critical to honest reporting - thelikes of Sandy Rios would be discredited far sooner.
Posted by: Michael Hamar | Feb 10, 2009 1:35:28 PM
Perhaps the most interesting thing about all of these change folks (at least in my mind) is that they are obsessed with the sexual part of our relationships. I know for me, being gay is about more than just sex. It is also about being with the person I love and want to spend my life with. It's the butterfly in the stomach feeling when I see my partner when I get home from work, building our financial future together, watching the news at night together, and going for our morning coffees. It is so much more than sex..
Posted by: Craig | Feb 10, 2009 8:31:09 PM
of course the show hasn't aired yet, but just getting the bit of info that we have, and knowing the type of person sam harris is, i'm going out on a limb (not really) and say that sam's explanation of the show is right on target. sandy rios can't even get her facts straight in her article. she writes that sam adopted a baby girl, when in fact, it was a boy. that in itself shows a person who doesn't care about facts.
Posted by: vicki | Feb 11, 2009 12:56:53 PM
Vicki: Yea, there's little doubt about that. It should be a very interesting episode.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Feb 11, 2009 1:03:40 PM
G-A-Y, yes, it will be interesting. i think i'm going to get fire in my ears when sandy rios speaks, though. these kind of people are the dangerous ones. wolves in sheep's clothing, i like to say.
Posted by: vicki | Feb 11, 2009 1:38:58 PM
Anti- gay. What an unfortunate identity. This reflects insecurity, fear - as in the opposite of love and close-mindedness. This position cannot coexist with that of equality and humanity.
Posted by: Haven | Feb 13, 2009 5:27:59 PM
The Sam and Sandy Show aired on May 7th. Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roviP_SaAwA
However, after seeing it, it was clearly the Sam Show as whoever Sandy is dug a degradable hole for herself.
Posted by: SOS | May 9, 2009 4:53:45 AM
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