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03/10/2009
Okay, now we're pissed
It's one thing to make up a quote and ascribe it to a website. But when the person who falsely attributed that quote of unknown origin then proceeds to call you a liar and intimate that you had, in fact, made the quote but simply deleted it after the fact, it becomes a whole other beast.
Earlier today we told you how a conservative website called the Collins Report put words in our mouth about a situation that we've never even written about. Well now, the author of that site, Kevin "Coach" Collins , is insisting to us and others that the quote was on our site when he visited it on Sunday:
And in a separate email, Mr. Collins suggested to someone who wrote him that this site "took it down when they found out I used it against their pals":
The fricking nerve! For one, anyone who subscribes to our RSS feed can easily tell you that we've never covered this topic. Here, look at our RSS posts since last Sunday:
Go ahead and compare the RSS heds to the site itself and see if we've deleted anything. Or go to our internet archive page and check out Sunday. Or just go to Google proper, where our words would have gone right after we made them. The only place you will find the words that were attributed to us are on Mr. Collins site, as well as the ultra right-wing FreeRepublic, who picked up his post.
But beyond that: The quote could not be less any less in our voice, and is in no way productive to the mission of this site (in fact, it would seem to come from an anti-gay mindset). We would have no reason for making it. And if we did make it, we would have no reason for hiding it (much less proceeding to post about how someone was making up stuff about us)!
But the best "Coach" Collins will do? Well, he's added this little quip to his initial post:
N. B.
The above quote was discovered during the research for this essay.
A message from someone stating he was representing the web site G.A.Y. has disputed its authenticity.
No, no, Mr. Collins -- I AM G-A-Y. And at this point, I'm not disputing its authenticity -- I'm demanding a correction and apology!
**The only time we have ever covered Lawlor/McDonald was back in February of 2007. The subject was a marriage bill and Jodi Rell's reluctance to sign it.
**Commenter Matt Algren has found another instance of the obviously gay-unfriendly quote on a Catholic message board:
http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24669
We have written that poster to find the origin once and for all.
Your thoughts
The far right is getting desperate and bizarre.
Posted by: libhomo | Mar 10, 2009 8:30:55 PM
Honset mistake? Hahaha.
Posted by: anon | Mar 10, 2009 8:33:43 PM
Ya know, I don't always agree with every other gay commenter in the blogosphere.
I do find myself questioning the wisdom of a direction, the usefulness of an argument, the conclusions of an analysis, or the comprehensiveness of a report. At times I'll even think that there is too much spin or that useful information has been left out.
But one thing I will say for gay bloggers and news commenters: they don't outright lie. I've found that if a gay site says it, it has at least a basis in truth.
Sadly, that is far from the case with "Christian" or "conservative" sites. Time after time after time they simply lie. And when its brought to their attention they... well, they simply lie again. They serve a greater TRUTH, you see, so they don't have to tell the old fashioned kind.
And it only lends itself to the increasing disillusion that Americans have with religion and conservative ideals. If they wonder why churches are emptying out and the GOP ranks thinning, it isn't because of evil secular liberals; its that decent folks want nothing to do with liars, cheats, and bigots which all too often has become the face of Christianity and conservatism.
Posted by: Timothy | Mar 10, 2009 9:01:57 PM
WOW! The lying liars not only fabricate their "research", but then have the gall to stand by their lies. That takes HUGE BALLS!
Posted by: Dick Mills | Mar 10, 2009 9:04:34 PM
What a dumbass. Jeremy, is there anything you can do about it in terms of legal action you think?
How frustrating! This guy is a total tool, his e-mail was, for a lack of a better word, annoying! I hate people who just assume they're always right and don't consider the fact they probably effed up.
UGH.
Posted by: Stef | Mar 10, 2009 9:20:38 PM
Threaten to take them to court. I can get you a list of laws that them doing this break if you like.
Posted by: Clicky the Fox | Mar 10, 2009 9:32:27 PM
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." It's so basic and so simple to follow isn't it? But as usual, these people can't even live up to their own standards.
Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Mar 10, 2009 10:12:52 PM
maybe he wore the wrong glasses.
Posted by: clarisseteagen | Mar 10, 2009 10:26:11 PM
What a dick. The only instance of that quote that I can find, other than this Coach Collins Report, is on a Catholic message board in a post from last Saturday. http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24669
Posted by: Matt Algren | Mar 10, 2009 11:56:31 PM
Sounds like Mr. Collins is "lying for the Lord." That will always get a God fearing person off the sinners hook won't it? Oh boy.
Posted by: Benjamin | Mar 11, 2009 2:41:24 AM
Ooh, good find, Matt! Now I can write the person from that forum and ask them where they got the quote.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Mar 11, 2009 7:23:13 AM
Don't take it lying down, put him on
http://filthyliar.com
They never seem to do it again after that.
Posted by: Even_Stevens | Mar 12, 2009 4:00:07 AM
Jeremy,
You might want a small edit to this post. I found it confusing at first, and had to go back and scan the other posts for the day to figure it out.
The reson is the "Earlier today" links in this post go to this post, rather than this one.
Posted by: Noel | Mar 12, 2009 11:32:54 AM
Hmm, not sure of those URLs came through. They are:
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2009/03/views-that-apply-as-much-to-taller-ants-as-they-do-actual-tolerance.html
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2009/03/what-the-huh.html
Posted by: Noel | Mar 12, 2009 11:38:42 AM
Oops! Thanks for catching that Noel. URLs have been corrected.
Posted by: G-A-Y | Mar 12, 2009 11:48:19 AM
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