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05/20/2009
HOLY CRAP: NH HOUSE REJECTS MARRIAGE BILL!
We were hardly even watching since we thought the vote was such a sure thing. But in an unexpected move, the New Hampshire House has, in a 188-186 vote, actually rejected the amended version of the marriage equality bill!
So thank you SO, SO MUCH for the unnecessary religious protections demands, Gov. Lynch. You have effectively stalled what was already decided, forcing your state's gay residents to pause their lives and fight this silly, inevitably pro-equality "fight" for a little longer. A real profile in courage, that. [::writer rolls eyes, shakes head, and moves his Bible away from his constitution since the former can apparently rip up the latter::]
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**UPDATE: HRC"s Marty Rouse sees less annoyance in the feet-dragging than we do:
While the House voted not to adopt today’s version of the amended marriage bill by a very close vote of 186-188, clearly the members of the House want to see marriage equality passed based on the strong vote not to kill it entirely. The House will now convene a conference committee to hash out differences in good faith in order to schedule another vote perhaps as soon as in the next two weeks.
BREAKING: NH House sends marriage bill to conference committee to work out final details [HRC Backstory]
**UPDATE 2: Check this out. G-A-Y reader Bruno found the following comment on the Union-Leader's site. It was made after the governor announced the new religious protections
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Comment can be found here [U-L]
And sure enough, Rep. Valliancourt is one of the ones who changed to a "Nay" vote today. So again: <snark> Thanks, ever so much, Gov. Lynch. </snark>
Your thoughts
Probably his plan all along; he demanded the protections to keep his street cred with the religious nuts, while still appearing to be in support of equality.
Now he gets to pass the blame for the bill's failure on the House.
Posted by: Donna | May 20, 2009 4:01:39 PM
Wow! I have mixed emotions about this. I want to say Bravo! to the house for seeing the extra protections for the religiots as being waaaaaaaay out of line. But on the other hand, what is their compromise? Are they going to offer up some more focused language that doesn't eviscerate other non-discrimination statutes?? Hopefully that is the case.
Posted by: Dick Mills | May 20, 2009 4:13:54 PM
Yea, Dick, I'm still trying to hear every vote-switcher's reason for going against it. And I, like you, can respect someone for speaking out against the unnecessary protections.
That's why for me, all blame lies in Lynch's lap. These "protections" are not only unneeded: they are offensive. Why do *our* civil marriages need special protections?!
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2009 4:21:55 PM
They will Never Be Satsified.
There is no concession nor compromise that will ever pacify the religious extremists.
Posted by: Jon | May 20, 2009 4:25:06 PM
From a few days ago, search "Steve V," it's there in the comments. Should make it clear that this is now a game of political football between Gov. Lynch and NH House GOP members.
Posted by: Bruno | May 20, 2009 4:43:53 PM
I was a little surprised as I've read in many places that most gays are kinda "meh" about the extra religious protections -- assuming that they are redundant restating of already established case/civil law.
Posted by: Jason D | May 20, 2009 4:47:46 PM
Nice find, Bruno! I'm adding it in an update.
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2009 4:53:35 PM
Jason: Well yea, many see it as pure strategy and are willing to play along if that is what it takes to get these deserving couples their equality. That's basically the stance that this site took, since the protections are essentially meaningless anyway. If that was the only way the governor would sign, then we would begrudgingly go along.
But when you consider what these protections mean, and how they are forcing unfair qualifiers onto gay people's CIVIL, FAITH-OPTIONAL equality, they are absolutely maddening. We should not be appeasing those who insist on making this, a matter of civil equality, all about religion. Now with this development today, we are seeing how doing so can actually hurt us.
Plus, as Jon mentioned, the anti-gay side won't be satisfied anyway --y have been the biggest critics of Lynch's amended language!
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2009 5:01:28 PM
Oh, I should give credit where it's due for that...a Pam's House Blend reader: http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showComment.do;jsessionid=84D62085D7401DC2F946DB92322EE140?commentId=133496
Posted by: Bruno | May 20, 2009 5:09:28 PM
the house was short by 26 people today. I can't help but wonder if the absentees had been present that this current mess could have been avoided
Posted by: dragon88 | May 20, 2009 5:15:13 PM
I thought the bill was moved to committee to work out a compromise - via Box Turtle Bulletin:
The Wall Street Journal clarifies:
Opponents tried to kill the bill, but failed. The House then voted 207-168 to ask the Senate to negotiate a compromise. - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124284564246640215.html
Posted by: a. mcewen | May 20, 2009 8:30:13 PM
Yes, that's right, Alvin -- it's going back to committee. And yes, they will hopefully work it all out. But the point remains that without Lynch's unneeded request, none of this would be going on
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2009 8:36:43 PM
Oh, I didn't realize this was just before the NOM one...
Here: This from a long term Northeastern activist.
"My friends in Concord NH, who have been active for many decades, knows the landscape and said clearly that Lynch contrived this
bait and switch with fellow fauxDems in the legislature where he served.
Lynch found a way to punt it back, knowing that the conservaDems and their homophobic GOP, could have another bite at the apple and defeat or emasculate it.
It puts Lynch out of the line of fire for dumbasses and the woosy gentrified HRC and Marty Rouse types. Don't get me started on Marty Rouse and his MassEquality and HRC his new home. Without GLAD and KnowThyNeighbor...and Tom Lang...we would not have CM in MA.
I have been in the fight for years, and can smell betrayal with an olfactory ability that defies empirical evaluation. LOL"
Posted by: LOrion | May 20, 2009 8:47:19 PM
Interesting, LOrion.
My instinct on this one has always been to focus on Lynch.
I've been trying to compare the roll call votes and see who switched and how. But haven't gotten around to it yet.
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 20, 2009 9:13:49 PM
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