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05/04/2009
Palin's favorite plumber unclogs his anti-gay drain
With campaign '08 long in the rearview mirror, is campaign footnote "Joe The Plumber" (nee Samuel Wurzelbacher) ready to jump on Carrie Prejean's gravy train? Well check out this comment from Christianity Today and decide for yourself:
Christianity Today: In the last month, same-sex marriage has become legal in Iowa and Vermont. What do you think about same-sex marriage at a state level?
Joe: At a state level, it's up to them. I don't want it to be a federal thing. I personally still think it's wrong. People don't understand the dictionary—it's called queer. Queer means strange and unusual. It's not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we're supposed to do—what man and woman are for. Now, at the same time, we're supposed to love everybody and accept people, and preach against the sins. I've had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they're people, and they're going to do their thing.
Q & A: 'Joe the Plumber' [Christianity Today]
(H/t: Joe the My God)
And now this proudly gay writer is going to scare the crap out of Joe in 5, 4, 3, 2...
My father's a plumber!
So don't be too sure, Mr. The Plumber, that "gay person" and "your children" are necessarily different things. Scientists are pretty sure that a proximity to plungers could be some sort of homo-stimulant.
Your thoughts
"they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children." -WTF is that supposed to mean?
Posted by: Jeff Chang | May 4, 2009 7:15:52 PM
Another jackass who thinks if he claims to have gay friends it'll exhonerate him of any charge that he's a bigot.
He won't even let them NEAR his kids? What kind of friend is he to them? If I had a "friend" who said that to me, we wouldn't be friends any longere.
Posted by: Bill S | May 4, 2009 7:25:38 PM
My dad is an electrician, but he has always had a serious "plumber's crack" problem! Does that count?
Ya know, I can almost overlook the "won't let gay friends around my kids" crack. (no plumber's crack pun intended) Because this guy is so obviously ignorant that he's only repeating the lies that the lying liars have fed him. And none of the lying liars actually ever say "all gay people are pedophiles" because that's just too big of a lie, even for them. But they do always lump homosexuals into the same group. And, the lying liars know that by lumping us into a group with pedophiles, that the morons like Joe the Ignorant are going to draw the mental conclusion that "all gays are pedophiles".
The fact of the matter is that his kids are at much higher risk around heteros than around gays. But, it's probably also true that the twice divorced, alleged wife-beater's kids are better off now that they aren't around him. It's pretty (absolutely??) certain that the ex-wives have come to the conclusion that they're better off now since they've kicked the moron to the curb.
Posted by: Dick Mills | May 4, 2009 8:51:01 PM
"I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children."
Another d-bag compares gays to pedophiles or predators. Fantastic. I still don't understand how an unlicensed plumber who owed (owes?) back taxes could become so popular. It mystifies me.
Posted by: KZ | May 4, 2009 9:07:08 PM
Calling someone queer (i.e. "strange and unusal" by joe's difinition) isn't a slur? I'm trying to wrap my head around that one still
Posted by: dragon88 | May 4, 2009 10:19:06 PM
Is their some agency that rents out gay friends? You hide behind the bible as an excuse to deny gays rights? take 1, he'll show you dont hate anyone. Call homosexuals pedophiles? better take 4.
Posted by: Penguinsaur | May 5, 2009 12:24:30 AM
He must have a very strange definition of friend.
Our children are now grown, but I would have never wanted them anywhere near him.
Posted by: Mike in the Tundra | May 5, 2009 3:09:49 AM
Who the hell is friends with someone they wouldn't let near their kids?
Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | May 5, 2009 6:21:38 AM
Fair enough. If I had kids, I wouldn't let him anywhere near them either!
Posted by: dave31175 | May 5, 2009 10:48:49 AM
Where are all these fabled homosexuals that don't mind schlepping through town with people that don't consider them human?
I mean, shit, everyone seems to have one of those nowadays. It makes the discriminative stances so much fluffier. I guess.
Posted by: Chris | May 5, 2009 11:22:55 AM
The comments at CT are overall negative, too. Some who support him claim trolls, but with the overwhelming amount saying, "Why did you interview this loser?" right from the beginning, I don't think so.
They also show that not all Chrstians are the uninformed bigots that NOM portrays us to be (Though some there don't quite have it right yet!).
Posted by: Bonnie_Half-Elven | May 5, 2009 12:53:53 PM
who cares? i mean really. should gays be allowed to marry? no... why? because marriage is a religious institution and the christian church (the majority in the usa) says it is a sin.
however....
a gay couple should have the same right as a married couple via a civil union, imho.
either way:
gay or straight, doesnt matter, only pedophiles stalk children. homosexuality isn't a disease that you catch on contact, it is a choice someone makes. just because a person is gay does not mean they are not a good person, a threat to a child, or any bs like this.
typical small minded attitdue being demonstrated by a lowly blue collar moron.
Posted by: telvndar | May 5, 2009 1:11:02 PM
"because marriage is a religious institution"
Okay, one more time: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, *no* it's NOT. What gay activists are seeking is CIVIL marriage. The religious component will be left to the churches, just as it always has been with opposite-sex couples. Nobody -- *NOBODY* -- is seeking to change this.
For a legally recognized marriage, religion is 100% an option. The civil marriage license is not.
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 5, 2009 1:29:07 PM
Why bring Governor Palin into this? Some of you have too much hate for Republicans.
Personally I support Joe the Plumber's comments. I wish he had said that he does not let his kids be around blacks. That would have been much better. I wish all Whites would be like that.
Anyway for those of you who are scared of Joe the Plumber or Gov. Palin you shouldn't be. Most of us regular people just want to avoid gays and yes we also want you to stay away from our kids. But we're not out to hurt you people. So try to have a nice day.
Posted by: Lyn | May 5, 2009 5:09:45 PM
Oh, Lyn:
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2009/05/biases-of-a-feather-sometimes-flock-together.html
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 5, 2009 5:58:58 PM
Lyn,
So, you "regular people" are really just nice folks, and don't mean to hurt anyone? Because I am not going to lie, you "regular people" that want to avoid us and keep your kids away from us out of some irrational fear of I-don't-even know-what are pretty hurtful. So, if you aren't out to hurt anyone, you failed. Miserably.
As for Wurzelbacher's comment that "I've had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children," I have to quote Jon Stewart, who put it very well: "I feel very confident in saying this-- your gay friends hate you."
Posted by: fakeplants | May 5, 2009 6:07:17 PM
Oh, and just to answer you on technical grounds, Lyn: Palin is mentioned because she felt the need to pepper our autumn of '08 with constant mentions of Joe. In the annals of American history, there names are forever linked to some degree.
Posted by: G-A-Y | May 6, 2009 10:12:27 AM
I will be thrilled when this guy finally goes away. He's a ridiculous caricature of himself at this point, and I hope he suffers a painful microphone-related injury the next time the Far Right props him up to speak.
Posted by: Garet | May 6, 2009 1:13:15 PM
Joe the plumber isn't a real plumber. G.A.Y's dad is more of a voice of the working man than "Joe" the attention whore. I know you know this already, but I feel like repeating it. Also, my dad sells, fits and fixes washing machines and other household appliances for a living - and, like G.A.Y's dad, he's cooler than "Joe" will ever be.
Posted by: Celia | May 7, 2009 12:25:28 PM
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