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And before you get funny ideas, Ash: The sky is, in fact, blue

by Jeremy Hooper

In a new Focus on the Family report, staffer Ashley Horne says the following:

*Audio source: Hate crimes legislation heads for vote in Senate [FNIF]

And if the FBI numbers weren't written in indelible ink, then Ashley might have a point. But unfortunately for her, they are:



As you can see, all anti-homosexual and bisexual crimes (except for those that were specifically anti-lesbian) went up between the two reports. And you can also see what did go down: Both attacks based on religion (which are already protected) and attacks against heterosexual people!

Do the heightened 2007 figures constitute a "dramatic" increase? Well call us drama queens if you want, but we suggest that any upward trend on the matter of bias-based violence is an increase that loving "pro-family" people should see worthy of address!!

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Jeremy, Thank you for the additional information. I only wish that we could imbed a link to this article on that page so all reading would get all the information.

Posted by: Patrick W | Jul 15, 2009 4:01:58 PM

That's exactly why they don't allow comments, Patrick W. They say it's because gays will "attack" them. In reality, they don't want us to have a forum for our own reasoned expression.

Go check out what's happening at the official Stand For Marriage Maine Facebook page (which seems to be a NOM project). Loads of people are going on there stating why, exactly, their push for inequality is wrong-headed. And everyone one from their side responds, they accuse us of "hijacking" or something else unsavory. They just can't understand why we would want to have a discussion:


Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 15, 2009 4:18:01 PM

Wow, Black and Jewish people have a lot to be fearful of, maybe we should play to those constituencies too in order to get a hate crimes bill passed.

But we gay males get more abuse in the sexual identity category. Interestingly neither I nor my SO have ever been bothered by anyone. Probably because to look at either one of us you don't want to tangle with us.

But we also live in the very tolerant northeast.

Posted by: Tony P | Jul 15, 2009 4:18:49 PM

"Wow, Black and Jewish people have a lot to be fearful of..."

And in an earlier day, Tony P, many evangelicals groups would have resisted protections for those groups. Some still would.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 15, 2009 4:23:31 PM

looking at the number of incidents:
Only Sexual Orientation and Ethnicity/National Origin went up. Disability stayed the same. Sexual orientation is the only one to go up by more than 25 incidents. Since everyone is going down but us and people of non-mainstream ethnicities, I'd say that this is a problem.

I'd say that it is great that the total number of hate crime incidents went down. I'd like sexual orientation to be protected too, so that we can enjoy the same trend.

Quick Question: If a biased crime against gay people occurs in a state with no hate crime protection for gay people, does that crime get counted in the FBI numbers above?

Posted by: DanM | Jul 15, 2009 4:25:58 PM

The other element you have to consider is how often anti-LGBT crimes go unreported because of fear, the victim's closeted status, social stigma, investigators' biases, etc. I would venture to say that even though our recorded numbers are high enough to merit specific address, the unreported numbers would ratchet that figure up considerably.

Posted by: G-A-Y | Jul 15, 2009 4:26:01 PM

"I would venture to say that even though our recorded numbers are high enough to merit specific address, the unreported numbers would ratchet that figure up considerably."

I looked at the detail (by city) data on hate crimes a couple of weeks ago. And, one thing in those numbers that very much supports your assertion, JH, is that hate crimes in San Francisco represent an inordinately large proportion of LGBT hate crimes reported in California. And, it is possible that more hate crimes against LGBTs, per capita, do actually occur in SF. But, the more likely case is that victims feel much more comfortable reporting them in SF than, say, in Riverside County or other less tolerant areas of California.

So, I think that the data already available lends credence to your supposition.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jul 15, 2009 4:42:22 PM

And, one more thing (I'm pretty bored today)...

Protestants, in those statistics, as a group of "victims" (which they love to claim that they are), were victimized by a hate crime 67 times in 2007, out of a total 9535 hate crimes. That is less than 1%. Even when you add the Catholics (comprising the two groups that most vehemently oppose adding LGBTs) the total is less than 1.5%. But, when you look at the total of all religion biased crimes, the number approaches the same number of sexual orientation biased crimes.

In my experience, religion on religion violence is the major constituent component of religion biased hate crimes. Historically, religions have actively carried on jihads against those who wouldn't accept their chosen (and mutually exclusive) belief systems. In fact, some of the most vicious, mass murdering sprees ever perpetrated against humanity have been done in the name of religion - especially the Catholics and Protestants.

It just seems very self-serving / self-preserving / convenient that those who have historically been much more predisposed toward committing hate crimes, are the ones that are vehemently opposing hate crimes legislation.

Posted by: Dick Mills | Jul 15, 2009 5:05:44 PM

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