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10/23/2009
Video: Another disgusting Maine ad
Okay, let's break it down.
0:00 - 0:05: It wasn't about marriage in 2005. When Pat Peard gave this quote to the Sunday Telegram, it was truthful. Sure, we always want marriage. We want marriage everywhere. We make no bones about this. But just like the current debate in Washington is about domestic partnerships, the '05 debate in Maine was about a non-discrimination law.
0:05 - 0:10: Okay, I was actually in this very room for this one. This footage is from Netroots Nation. The part they've isolated comes at the 32:05 mark:
From Prop 8 to Full Equality in All 50 States - Netroots Nation Day 1 from Will Urquhart on Vimeo.
Monique Hoeflinger is not revealing anything "secret" or "shocking." When you attend Netroots, you know that there could be no less than ten webcams on you at any given time. So it's not exactly a place where you'd say something you don't want anyone to see. Hoeflinger is simply saying that these fights are not sprints, but rather marathons, and that the progressive, pro-LGBT side has been building support since 2005. DUH! We LGBT people and our allies want marriage equality. Just like the other side wants bias, and have been building for years for their own campaigns. There is nothing to this at all!
0:10 - 0:22: Okay seriously -- do they not see how they are invalidating their own cause with these claims that we are already pushing the "gay agenda™" in schools? Because if we are ALREADY DOING IT, wouldn't that mean that this conversation does not hinge on Question One?! I mean, obviously we're not "doing" anything other than acknowledging the reality of the world. But since they've built their whole campaign around the notion that gayness in schools hinged on the November 3 vote, isn't it poor strategy to claim that the November 3 vote has no bearing on the matter?!?!?!
0:22 - 0:30: Where, exactly is the deception?! To refresh: They have established that a pro-gay person accurately assess the '05 debate about a non-discrimination measure, that politically-minded people have been thinking about politics for years, and that there have been efforts to combat anti-gay attitudes in the public spectrum (which had nothing to do with whether or not marriage was legal in Maine and everything to do with the fact that LGBT people exist). Who the hell is doing the deceiving here?!
Your thoughts
I always wonder, how will the children suffer? Is having an open mind suffering? Is having love and tolerance suffering? How about knowing that those feelings you have aren't just you, that there are other people out there just like you who have the same rights and privileges?
It's religion - they are afraid that this will infringe on their religious 'liberties'. I say to hell with them.
Posted by: Tony P | Oct 23, 2009 10:19:24 AM
All that money, and they can't even get a real Mainer to do the VO? At least they could get someone who can fake the accent a bit more convincingly, couldn't they? Or do they think we're too dumb to notice?
Posted by: ColdCountry | Oct 23, 2009 11:40:07 AM
Monica should appear in a response ad challenging the Yes side to defend their accusation in a public debate with her.
Posted by: LdChino | Oct 23, 2009 11:57:13 AM
I agree with LdChino. Someone email her.
Posted by: PINGAS | Oct 23, 2009 12:13:02 PM
On that thought, it would be really neat if there could be a televised, public debate between the Yes and No on 1 supporters. This close to voting, it would probably be a media sensation, and we could finally, and very publicly, expose all the lies of the lying liars.
But, considering anti-equality folks' track record of extreme fear of transparency, they would probably never agree to go ahead with it.
Posted by: PINGAS | Oct 23, 2009 12:15:39 PM
Yes on 1 parents squawked and got an event canceled at the high school in Camden yesterday. Apparently there was supposed to be a discussion between a No on 1 rep and a Yes on 1 person, but the Yes on 1 folks never came up with a presenter. They were going to go ahead with the No on 1 person alone, 'til a bunch of enraged parents called the school and got the whole thing canceled. So pathetic...you can read more here:
http://www.dirigoblue.com/diary/547/s4mm-tries-to-create-another-controversy-where-none-exists
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Posted by: Leslie | Oct 23, 2009 12:43:20 PM
Why is it always "won't someone think of the children"! The music makes it sound as though they're reporting an outbreak of black death. No convincing argument in this video as to why you should vote as they demand.Sensational withour substance as with all homophobic debate.
Posted by: Julie | Oct 23, 2009 4:58:12 PM
Will Urquhart from Sum of Change here.
I just wanted to let you know that we have made the videos in question private until this matter is resolved. We put out a formal request that they take down the ad, to which the Stand for Marriage Maine campaign has declined. We consider this situation an infringement on our copyright. We also see this as plagiarism since they failed to site Sum of Change as the source for the material. We are looking at all the legal options available to us, and will update our website (www.sumofchange.com) with any developments.
Posted by: Will Urquhart | Oct 23, 2009 8:28:00 PM
Yes on 1 also canceled on a planned debate at UMaine. How pathetic that they can't go out and argue in a neutral forum. And suing the state on campaign finance -- and going after education, which everyone in Maine knows is locally controlled -- major bullcrap.
Posted by: mid-maine | Oct 26, 2009 8:33:54 PM
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