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Did we move to a Catholic-controlled nation and not remember it ?

by Jeremy Hooper


The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said Wednesday that it will be unable to continue the social service programs it runs for the District if the city doesn't change a proposed same-sex marriage law, a threat that could affect tens of thousands of people the church helps with adoption, homelessness and health care.
Several D.C. Council members said the Catholic Church is trying to erode the city's long-standing laws protecting gay men and lesbians from discrimination.

Catholic Church gives D.C. ultimatum [WaPo]

And why, exactly, do their faith-based concerns about something (namely: discrimination) that they think will affect "tens of thousands of people" somehow trumps our civil-based concerns that demonstrably affect many more than that?!?! Ugh. It's so damn nervy of them!

God forbid they have to be compassionate to both the homeless and the gays (with overlap there, of course). Or actually, we always thought God would forbid the exact opposite. But hey, what do we know? We're just immoral perverts.

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My first reaction was that this was a bad thing, but hey it's America. If they feel their rights are being trodden upon in the District, they can move their operations somewhere else.

That's what their side tells us all the time, at least.

Posted by: DN | Nov 12, 2009 10:01:12 AM

As a born-and-brought-up-practicing catholic - now 63 years old - all I can say I've learned from the catholic church in all that time is discrimination - not the love of Jesus Christ - I'm sorry it took so long (some 50 years) for their true "light" to dawn on me. The Bastards!

Posted by: tom | Nov 12, 2009 10:02:00 AM

They (the Catholic Church) will implode, won't they? Please? I am praying for the implosion! LOL.

I really feel like we are reaching a tipping point (of sorts) where people are starting to sound ever-more ridiculous in their mantras of hate and bigotry, and people who are listening are starting to call them on it. You are right, Jeremy. The church sounds like a big bully in this article. I am glad the other kids in the schoolyard are standing up for themselves. Someone needs to stand up to that bully Governor in Rhode Island, too.

Somehow, though, I wish this all had happened in September and October. Maybe then we could have changed 31,000 hearts and minds here in Maine and things would have turned out differently last week.


Posted by: Leslie | Nov 12, 2009 10:09:26 AM

What are they going to do if that doesn't work? Will they send all their child molesting priests back out if we don't cave to their bigotry? I mean really. If you do not pass the laws we want we are going to stop following the teachings of our lord Jesus Christ? WTF? I think these bastards ought to go back and reread their bibles. Here's a hint guys: Remember that dude Jesus? The one you pretend to follow? His teachings, the ones that inspired your religion, are usually in red. You may find such gems as "In the way you judge others you will also be judged" and "What you do for the least of your brothers you do for me" Remember those? Surely if the homeless are not the least of your brothers then those you hate, the LGBT community is. What you are saying is that you are going to give up loving Jesus because you are angry at those who love and accept their fellow man. I am a recovering catholic who left the church when they told me I should not take communion if I voted for a pro-choice candidate. If I had not at that point this extreme anti-christian stance would have made me leave.

Posted by: stevie | Nov 12, 2009 10:54:46 AM

Talk about blackmail! The Roman Catholic Church wants to withhold help to all the needy because the Archbishop of the District of Columbia is homophobic? This takes the cake! "If you don't play by my rules I'm going to take my ball and go home." How puerile and typical of them!

Posted by: Rolland Hopkins | Nov 12, 2009 10:57:52 AM

I dunno, but this just sounds very, very unchristiant to me (much like most things the religious right in the US are spouting these days).

But seriously catholics? Letting the homeless suffer because of your disagreement with city hall? What would the good samaritan say about that?

Posted by: Mark | Nov 12, 2009 11:14:30 AM

I testified right after the Catholic Charities on 10/26/2009 in Washington, D.C. At first, I was reluctant to be the 95th witness of 100, until I heard they and their counsel's comments. That's when I knew I was exactly where I was meant to be at exactly the right moment. My testimony spoke directly to their commentary on family values ... and everyone in the chambers knew it.

I'll sum it up like this ... The Catholic Charities are free to provide services to whomever they wish, not hire whomever they wish, etc. Just become a private entity. The 75% of public funding that they currently receive to provide said services can simply be funded by the Vatican rather than our government.

Posted by: Shawn Catherine Fisher | Nov 12, 2009 11:23:38 AM

I would assume that they can also not discriminate on the basic of religion, but I'm willing to bet they would have no problem helping out someone who is Jewish or even Protestant even though the Pope says that Catholicism is the only true religion!

I wonder if they also ask those seeking shelter if they've ever been divorced and have turned them away for that!

I'm betting no.

Posted by: Bearchewtoy75 | Nov 12, 2009 12:05:34 PM

I am dead serious when I say this, and being that I live in Richmond just an hour away, I would be willing and able to help if something like this actually got off the ground.

DC LGBTs and their sympathizers should, in response to this uncharitable threat, start a clothing drive and distribution program for the homeless. Winter is almost fully here, and freezing half to death is unfabulous.

Not only would it be a good thing in and of itself, it would be a direct slap in the face to any religious group or individual who places political non-issues above showing and spreading the love of Christ. In my opinion, it could be a powerful statement of our goodness and worth.

Posted by: CoaHT | Nov 12, 2009 12:06:54 PM

@ CoaHT: That is *brilliant*.

As for the original post, what can I say that hasn't been said? It's going to be so glaringly obvious what their religion is really about now. Hope straight people who are on the fence about our rights are paying attention.

Posted by: GreenEyedLilo | Nov 12, 2009 12:34:34 PM

Back in 2007 the British government instituted the final laws to give LGBTers rights to services heterosexuals take for granted. One of them was the right to adopt children.

Predictably, Catholic adoption agencies were up in arms, and quite a few of them threatened to shut down unless they were exempted.

And the government... called their bluff. The law went through without any concessions, and the Catholics caved.

DC should learn from this bit of history. They should stand up to this flagrant piece of blackmail. Danegeld is never paid only once.

Posted by: Baron Scarpia | Nov 12, 2009 12:59:32 PM

And yet they act so confused about why people like me continue to leave in disgust.

Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Nov 12, 2009 7:27:00 PM

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