Good As You

Sen.Oppenheimer and those of us well versed in the history of the Holocaust, the Civil Rights movement and abolition know something that Maggie has failed to learn.

That such devastation was lead by demonizing human beings simply for their difference. That by constantly advancing the fiction that gay people are threatening, have no value to society in equal measure or potential as anyone else or are in anyway inferior is wholly symptomatic of tactics USED by slavers, Nazis and segregationists.

Doesn't she RECOGNIZE the echoes of that in her activities? Doesn't Brian Brown understand where the root of this history is? Most of which is SO recent, so accurate and so well reported in plain English in America?

They are compared because they EARNED it by their own speeches, their own libels and slanders against the entire of the gay community, THAT'S why.

And are definitively ANTI GAY, not pro marriage. When they talk about gays who are engage in fighting for their ability to be self reliant and protective of each other and their children and families: NOM uses words like 'militant' and 'activist' and 'angry' and 'threatening' in every descriptive word they have.

This loads any conversation with hostility before it's begun. This coalesces fear and exploits ignorance of the law and the reality of the agenda of gay people.

If NOM were to be pro marriage and truthful about the aim and target of their actions, they'd see SHARED values and common interest in respect for marriage and children FROM gay people at large.

But each and every REACTION by the gay community against this libel, is seen always and everywhere by NOM as a threat and therefore the perception of persecution is told as truth, while the reality of threat for gay people is dismissed and forgotten.
NOM likes to remind people to be afraid of gay people, and whatever gay people are up to, it can't be good.

EXACTLY what the Nazis did. EXACTLY what segregationists did. Even regarding sexuality.
And the Jews and gay people as well, found themselves in the camps, dying and treated to one of the worst human rights violations in human history. And blacks, especially black men, found themselves hanging from lynching trees.

And young, sweet gay boys like Jayson Mattison and Lawrence King are just as cruelly dead as the lynched.
Gay parents find that their children are vulnerable and can be taken away from their parents.
Similar to what slave parents endured because THEY couldn't get married.

Mags, you're not doing God's work. God's work is fighting for justice for ALL people and remembering what happens when you don't.
You're not making any sacrifices or adhering to the very commandment Sen. Oppenheimer got emotional over.
THAT is God's work too.

Mags hasn't heard what the Nazis or segregationists did. But I bet, even if she did...she wouldn't listen to them anymore than the other voices of reason and experience.
And listening...is God's work too.

I am so sick of this tired old argument. Guess what, Maggie? *Everyone* has the right to call *anyone* anything they want.

From the things you say, people (society at large, *not* government) will start forming opinions about you. You have absolutely no guarantee that people will like you. In fact, given the divisive nature of this issue, anything you say on it will alienate you from some, and bring you closer to others.

What Maggie Gallagher is asking for - no - demanding, is that all people have nice opinions about her. Joe the Plumber does the same thing. I'm not even an American (yet) and I know more civics than her.

Maggie, your deliberate muddling of simply having views on same-sex marriage, and actively trying to keep or make them illegal in a civil setting needs to stop. Now. Today.

I don't disrespect people because of their personal values and views concerning marriage, nor do I call them bigots.

You, Maggie, are trying to prevent or revoke my right to a civil marriage; you are the one that cannot coexist with diverse views on marriage unless your specific view is the only one allowed; *you* are the bigot Maggie, not for what you believe, but for the things you've done, and all that you continue to do.

Someone should ask Gallagher why did she choose to co-sign a document with people who believe that lgbts should be jailed for private sexual behavior and who are also for laws declaring "homosexuality illegal." - i.e. the Manhattan Declaration with its signers Lou Sheldon and Peter Akinola. - http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.com/2009/12/hate-group-leader-joins-manhattan.html

Her fascade of phony victimhood is wearing mighty thin.

No one was keeping the NO voters from speaking up. Not from our side at least. I would have loved to hear what they had to say.

Just as reliably as the sun rose this morning, we receive another proclamation from Maggie Gallagher, the
Final
Arbiter of
Truth
- at the
Biblical
Institute for
Theocracy and
Condemnation of
Homosexuals

Great point, Matt! Had they been shut out by some sort of procedural maneuvering, the far-right would be apoplectic. But they weren't shut out -- they deliberately forfeited their chance to go on record. We should point out their cowardice ever single day until we get marriage, or until the "No" votes are out of office.

"[A] Chase spokesman asserted late Thursday that the antigay group headed by Maggie Gallagher is not eligible for charitable funds — even if it garnered sufficient votes — because it violates the contest's nondiscrimination rules. "

Am I wrong, or did Chase just call the Magger a BIGOT?!

Her words are ironic, coming as though do from someone who just signed onto the Manhattan Declaration, a document in which conservative Christians compared themselves to Martin Luther King Jr writing from the Birmingham Jail and imbued same-sex couples with the power to destroy society.

Wait a minute, Maggie!

You spent $600,000 on this battle.

You won.

But now, you're the victim? Your feelings got hurt?

Here's the real question in my mind: What was NOM's role in the way the debate played out on the Senate floor? Did NOM get commitments from a Democrat or two, and then coach Republicans not to speak? Did they make sure other wavering Dems knew that it wasn't going to pass, as well?

The debate was lopsided because Maggie's supporters decided not to show up. If it was so disrespectful, then 37 grown-ups had the opportunity, if not the obligation, to stand up and say so.

This is ending of Pat N Warren's NOV 17 column in TBP re BIGOTRY: New Definition. Whole blog worth a read. http://tinyurl.com/ykdkpvu

"How do we turn things around? More laws? More investigations? More court fights? There's a saying, that you can't legislate enlightenment. So I'm not sure that more laws and legal opinions will do the job.
But we can start by exposing these crimes in the media, so the American public gets educated about what the real bigots are up to. We must put that label on the politicians and the lobbyists and the celebrities and the corporate figureheads who deserve it. We have to hold them up to public censure -- prevent them from hiding behind the user-friendly labels that they stick on themselves, like "patriot" and "good Christian." The extreme right launched its Teabagger movement -- we have to launch our Teabigot movement.
Little by little, more Americans have to get deeply shocked and embarrassed about bigotry. Being a bigot, as I define it, needs to become socially unacceptable. The bigoted high-school student, who mouths his parents' attitudes as he beats up on some transgendered kid in the boys' bathroom, has to find himself shunned by other students. The bigots in the media who pretend to be political reporters, like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, have to see the bottom fall out of their ratings. Bigots on the U.S. Supreme Court won't be replaced. The High Court has made some bigoted decisions in the past, as it did when it found in favor of slavery, but sooner or later the Justices reflect deep shifts in American viewpoint and they get it right.
Once the majority of Americans get embarrassed and disgusted with bigotry, and recognize it when they see it, the bigots who run for office will start losing elections.
Only then will we match George Washington's definition of the U.S.A. as a country "which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance."

How about we treat her to the same thing she's treating us to? Let's put a referendum forward to take away her free speech rights, her religious rights, and her marriage. FUCK YOU MAGGIE.