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Tony Perkins thinks we're scared to debate him, can only call him names; I should stop guffawing by tomorrow (maybe)

by Jeremy Hooper

I have probably challenged Tony Perkins more than any American writer. For nine years I have pushed back on everything he has written and said. In those nine years—a whopping 883 posts on this site alone, in my first book, and more on GLAAD, HRC, and several other web properties—I've never once used the words "bigot" or "hater." Literally. I just searched my archives again to make sure.

But it doesn't matter. Tony Perkins and just about every single person who works on the wrong side of the marriage equality issue will just keep saying nonsense like this:

We can't engage in debate, T? Weird, at least six courts in the past two months, the U.S. Supreme Court, four states in the last national election, and a growing majority of Americans think we're pretty good at debate.

Oh, and I think this is hilarious—HIGH-LARRY-US—that this is coming from a man who no less than three sources (from three different vantage point) told me refused—FLATLY REFUSED—to go head to head with me when we are both booked to be on Fox News. I don't think you were scared I would call you a "bigot" or a "hater," Tony; I know you were scared that I would mention the stuff that has come out of your own mouth:

-- Says about gay people: “They are intolerant. They are hateful. They are vile. They are spiteful"..."pawns" of the "enemy.” (See 1:30 mark.)

-- Lumps together Aurora shooting, kidnapping, and openly gay soldiers as three examples of a "nation gone under"

-- Says many gays have an "emptiness within them" (:55) because they are "operating outside of nature" (1:09)

-- Says that gay young people “have a higher propensity to depression or suicide because of that internal conflict; homosexuals may recognize intuitively that their same-sex attractions are abnormal.

-- Despite what health experts have said, insists that pedophilia is “a homosexual problem.”

-- The Family Research Council has distributed a pamphlet that claims gay men are more likely to molest children, and supports "reorientation therapy" for gay people

-- The Family Research Council has distributed a pamphlet that begins by likening the logic behind same-sex marriage to the logic behind man-horse marriage (complete with horse graphic)

-- Compares gay legal advocates to terrorists (at 0:31 mark): “[B]ack in the 80s and early 90s, I worked with the State Department in anti-terrorism and we trained about 50 different countries in defending against terrorism, and it’s, at its base, what terrorism is, it's a strike against the general populace simply to spread fear and intimidation so that they can disrupt and destabilize the system of government. That's what the homosexuals are doing here to the legal system.”

-- Says: "It doesn't matter what society does, I think within the homosexual, most of them know that this behavior, it's just not right, it's not what we were created to do and it's against God's plan and it's contrary to our nature and the way were were created."

-- Says: “The truth is that we cannot redefine marriage without opening the door to all manner of moral and social evil.

-- Called the It Gets Better project "disgusting," claiming it tells children "that it's okay to be immoral" and constitutes a "concerted effort to persuade kids that homosexuality is okay and actually to recruit them into that lifestyle"; also called the project a "deceptive lie"

-- Paid $82,500 to use the phone bank of former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke for an election run-off.

-- Warns about marriage equality and trans acceptance: "As parents across Massachusetts fume about the new rules, the controversy certainly reinforces an important point: this is the future of same-sex ' marriage'  in America. It may take teenage boys invading girls' locker rooms to prove it, but redefining marriage is about a lot more than two people who love each other. This is about the fundamental altering of society. Maybe some of you have fallen for the lie that same-sex ' marriage'  won't affect you. I guarantee that you'll feel differently when you're trying to pull your second grader out of a lesson on homosexuality--and end up in handcuffs instead. Or when your daughter comes home in tears because she's been suspended for telling someone she felt uncomfortable using the bathroom with a male teacher inside. By then, it will be too late."

-- Claims "blood of young marines" is on hands of legislators who voted to repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell.

-- Claims "people know intuitively that [homosexuality] is morally wrong"

-- Says "it's a fact" that homosexuality leads to "eternal damnation"

-- Linked Secret Service prostitution scandal directly to open service: "[O]ver the weekend we saw the news of the President’s Secret Service detail in Colombia and the issue of them hiring prostitutes and now the White House is outraged about that. Actually in a meeting this morning my staff asked, ‘why should the President be upset’? It was actually legal; it was legal there to do that, so why should we be upset? Well, the fact is we intuitively know it’s wrong, there’s a moral law against that. The same is true for what the President has done to the military enforcing open homosexuality in our military. You can change the law but you can’t change the moral law that’s behind it. You can change the positive law, the law that is created by man, but you can’t change the moral law, it’s wrong. So what you have is you have a total breakdown and you can’t pick and choose. Morality is not a smorgasbord; you can’t pick what you want. I think you’re absolutely right, this is a fundamental issue going forward because if we say ‘let them do what we want,’ what’s next? You cannot maintain moral order if you are willing to allow a few things to slide."

-- Says gays and lesbians are "held captive by the enemy"

-- Claims his kids couldn't be gay because he is "teaching them the right ways that they are to interact as human beings" (3:15-3:39)

-- Compared Mayor Bloomberg's proposed ban on supersized soft drinks to the "need" to ban homosexuality: "On one hand, he's happy to legislate people's food choices, using the dangers of obesity as justification. On the other, he not only promotes--but forces others to embrace--a sexual behavior that carries just as many public health risks. If that isn't hypocrisy, I don't know what is....On the "Today" show, Bloomberg reiterated that all he wants to do is improve life expectancy. If that's the case, then perhaps the Mayor should reconsider his endorsement of homosexuality, which, as Peter Sprigg explains, is one of the greatest public health hazards in America." 

-- Equates LGBT pride with drunkedness and adultery: "The month of June is Gay Pride Month. Now, I have not yet seen where they have declared Adultery Pride Month, I have not seen where they have declared the Drunkenness Pride Month." 

-- Dedicated seven minutes of a recent radio should to framing scientifically-discredited "ex-gay" therapy as "successful," encouraging gays to "escape the homosexual lifestyle"

-- Claims: "Even if society embraced homosexuality, there would never be that sense of self-fulfillment because it's outside of how God created man and woman, and that's the bottom line.  They can't erase that." 

-- Tells "funny" story about his church converting "big women" into "ex-gays"

-- Claims Uganda bill (with death penalty attached) simply "upholds moral conduct"

-- Equates gay people with drug addicts, adulterers: "...[W]e need to be praying for those who are bound up in these lifestyles whether it is homosexuality, whether it is drugs, whatever it might be, anything that is outside the design of God for mankind, it could be adulterous relationships, it doesn’t matter."

-- Compares the "unfortunate experience" and "lifestyle choice" of homosexuality to that of drug abuse

-- Claims court-tested marriage equality will lead to a "revolution" in America

-- Says marriage equality will be "the nail in coffin of marriage" and will "take society down with it"

-- Says Republican Senator Rob Portman should not support his gay son's "choices that are both harmful to [him] and to society as a whole"

-- Says Supreme Court justice Anthony Kennedy should be impeached simply because of his marriage ruling

-- Says the Ten Commandments should be the law of the land

-- Claims servicemembers' same-sex weddings "desecrate" military chapels

Tony Perkins [GLAAD CAP]

Why would I need to use labels when your own words help me so much?

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