Good As You: Proposition 8 Roundup
12/07/2012
Group arguing against us in court: Gays 'caught in the snare of sexual sin'; equality fight is 'evil'
As you watch the Supreme Court this morning for news on the Proposition 8 and DOMA cases, remember that the legal organization most engaged in these battles on the anti- side, the so-called Alliance Defending Freedom, is involved in these...
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08/27/2012
Did a trial judge just open the door to CA marriages?
Chris Geidner brings us news that might have just opened marriage to millions: The trial court judge in California who has taken over hearing the federal court case challenging Proposition 8, the state's amendment limiting marriages to one man and...
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02/08/2012
Candle in the 'win': Sprigg faults Reinhardt for using Marilyn, et al.
On page 38 and 39 of the Ninth Circuit's 100+ page majority opinion, Judge Reinhardt included this snippet about the word "marriage" and its connotation in our culture: [READ: The Ninth Circuit's Prop 8 Opinion] The goal of this one...
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02/07/2012
Another anti-gay #Prop8 response, another 'San Francisco values' attack
Family Research Council via emailed press release: "Today's decision was disappointing but not surprising, coming from the most liberal Circuit Court in the country. This Hollywood-funded lawsuit, which seeks to impose San Francisco values on the entire country, may eventually...
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READ: The Ninth Circuit's Prop 8 Opinion #LGBT
2-1, upholding Judge Walker's 2009 decision! PROP 8 IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! 10-16696 #398_Decision
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12/12/2011
Video: Relive the 12/8 Prop 8 hearing now, tomorrow, and on future day when witch-hunting gay judges won't be socially kosher
Tired of holiday specials? Well you're in luck, weary Rudolph, for you can now really get in the holiday spirit by, uhm, well -- watching over two hours of legal minutiae designed to earn back a civil right that was...
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12/08/2011
@TheProp8trial (even if you can't be)
Another step in the ongoing Prop 8 federal trial begins today at 2:30PM Pacific time (5:30 Eastern), with a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals hearing oral arguments pertaining to our side's efforts to release video of...
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09/16/2011
Peter Sprigg says Prop 8 witness proves gays can change; proves why his side does so poorly on (and fears) witness stands
Sandy Stier, one of the plaintiffs in the Prop 8 trial, was once married to a man. So according to the Family Research Council's Peter "I'd prefer to export homosexuals" Sprigg, that "proves" that gays can "change": Usually, when homosexual...
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06/16/2011
Media lies about Prop 8 facts, says org. that wouldn't surprise us if they called it Prop 9
The anti-gay side, via the unsuccessful witch hunt against Judge Vaughn Walker, was trying to overturn the Reagan/Bush appointees thoroughly reasoned Aug. 4, 2010 ruling. That was the goal: To vacate the decision and force a whole new trial --...
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06/14/2011
A bad day for witch hunts
Finally, the presumption that “all people in same-sex relationships think alike” is an unreasonable presumption, and one which has no place in legal reasoning. The presumption that Judge Walker, by virtue of being in a same-sex relationship, had a desire...
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06/13/2011
Follow the Tweets: #IfJudgeWalkerWillNotLady-Date,YouMustVacate?
Today, Prop 8 proponents are back in court, arguing that (Republican appointee) Judge Walker's case of the gay invalidates his case for basic fairness. The offensively attempted revolution will be Tweet-ivized: **SEE ALSO: Prop 8 Trial Tracker's Extensive Coverage
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05/10/2011
Maggie writes 'stigmatize, marginalize & repress' into Prop 8 script; miscasts roles
Pollen. Ragweed. Dander. Cadbury eggs and Matzoh crackers. For Focus on the Family and their "protect marriage" ally Maggie Gallagher, responsibility for civil discrimination is perhaps the most reliable catalyst for spring (and year-round) allergies: [O]n Friday, two-time gymnastics gold...
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05/04/2011
NYT on Prop 8 proponents' miscalculated withhunt: 'Preposterous'
The New York Times editorial board lashes out against those who are witch-hunting Judge Vaughn Walker: Our justice system relies on trusting members of the nation’s diverse bench to put aside their personal characteristics and abide by their duty of...
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04/29/2011
FRC's unwitting admission: Prop 8's public school fear-mongering was bunk nonsense
With the following three lines, Family Research Council staffers intend to slight the recently-passed bill that will work to enshrine the historical contributions of LGBT Americans in state's textbooks, as well as drum up fears that link marriage equality to...
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04/26/2011
Too 'mo to adjudicate: From fringe commentary to official legal motion
If you haven't already heard: Those same forces that have tried in every way to stop gay rights, writ large, are now offensively targeting the life and work of one particular gay man for no reason greater than his sexual...
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04/21/2011
Audio: Matt Barber can't stop talking about Prop 8 proponents' 'deficient job'
We will never tire of hearing the Liberty Counsel's Matt Barber concede the one point that his "pro-family" colleagues will not, no matter how obvious. That point? The undeniable fact that the Prop 8 proponents presented a truly terrible case...
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03/23/2011
Video: Judge Vaughn Walker on cameras, Prop 8, need to see the 'train of thinking' (*including exclusive trial clip)
Most Prop 8 talk comes after 30:50 mark, including a compelling, exclusive trial clip at 33:45 mark:
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01/17/2011
Prop 8's petitionary root: Only if it involved a virgin and a manger could birth have been less secular
When considering the ignoble push that took away our civil rights in California, we Prop 8 watchers have of course looked at a gagillion different angles. But one we haven't really looked at on this site, at least not fully,...
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01/11/2011
Matt Barber: Prop 8 strategy built on PR. I know, I was there
We all know that "protect marriage" rhetoric is a carefully focused group notion mention to cover up the discriminatory truth attached to all anti-LGBT campaigns. And more and more, we're hearing rogue members of the "pro-family" movement admit as much:...
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01/04/2011
BREAKING: Prop 8 decision from Ninth Circuit coming in 15 minutes (written at 1:45PM Eastern)
At least that's the message that just dropped into our Inbox. Stay tuned. *** *HERE IT IS: So wait, the case is going back to the CA Supreme Court? Read along and help me figure it out: [Order Certifying Question...
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12/14/2010
NOM thinks Chuck Cooper knocked it out of park; we agree, if by 'park' they mean 'ballpark of factuality'
That National Organization for Marriage is upset because "[n]ot a single TV newscast televised [Chuck Cooper's] dramatic and graceful calling out of so-called superlawyers Olson and Boise for the way they have consistently demeaned those with whom they disagree." So...
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12/09/2010
If Prop 8's shitty, it's shitty, irrespective of Jerry or Arnie
One of the oddest far-right spin jobs related to the current Prop 8 appeal is how some of these folks are acting like California's governor and attorney general are issuing some sort of de facto veto power by opting to...
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12/07/2010
As long as we're all looking at Reinhardt's record...
As the far-right continues to toss around "Reinhardt's a radical liberal" claims in order to discredit one of the three members of the 9th Circuit panel tasked with hearing the Prop 8 appeal, we want to stop and offer some...
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12/06/2010
Video: 'The Odd Couple's Case in the 9th Circuit -- one of the great stories in history'
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Morse code feigns 'hardt beat
The National Organization For Marriage's Jennifer Roback Morse is now building on the far-right's convenient "Reinhardt's a radical liberal" meme, pretending to contrast herself with those conservatives who are worried about the judge's placement: I’m not worried however. [Reinhardt] can...
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Roaming Romer views: 2010 vs. 1996
At a couple of points during today's Prop 8 appeal hearing, lead proponent attorney Charles Cooper worked to separate the current equality matter from Romer vs. Evans, the 1996 Supreme Court case that struck down Colorado's voter-enacted ban against recognizing...
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The wheels on the Prop 8 spin machine go 'Reinhardt's an activist'
As we head into today's Prop 8 appeal, the social cons are aggressively working the "judicial panel is skewed" talking point: Reinhardt, considered to be one of the most radical and liberal judges in the nation, has seen many of...
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12/02/2010
NOM hearts Scalia's hotshot lawyer theory; we see that theory, raise them a 'Lawrence' actuality
The National Organization For Marriage is praising Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, linking his recent comments about due process and the Founding Fathers' supposed intent to the ongoing Prop 8 matter: The ABA Journal reports on his speech at the...
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11/17/2010
Prop 8 appeal: You won't have to rely on #hashtags
Both C-SPAN and San Francisco ABC affiliate KGO-TV have been granted permission to broadcast the Prop 8 hearing when the matter heads over to U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in two and a half weeks: C-SPAN applied to televise...
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11/16/2010
Latter day revisionism: Church allies hope memory banks are as easy to steal as wedding rings
This is Joel Campbell, a media commentator and associate communications professor at Brigham Young University, "explaining" why the poor LDS church has been criticized in the needlessly more-hostile days since Prop 8 passed: "Mormons were singled out more in news...
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11/04/2010
Video: Before & AFER: The path to what's next
AFER 2009-2010 from American Foundation for Equal Ri on Vimeo. Equality: a Reminder from Prop 8 Foes – the American Foundation for Equal Rights [LGBT POV]
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11/01/2010
Video: Gays 'struggle': That's the best Jim Garlow's willing to offer
Jim Garlow was one of the leading anti-equality voices in the 2008 Prop 8 fight. But don't think he's insensitive, fellow constitutionally deprived citizens. No, no -- Jim understands that we're all "struggling with same-sex attraction," and that's why we're...
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10/20/2010
So what, Brian Brown, you just took our high court-backed civil rights for sport?
The entire focus of the Proposition 8 campaign -- THE. ENTIRE. FOCUS! -- was on telling California citizens that gay people, via their unmufflered civil marriages, would reshape society, harm children's lives, and warp religious freedom in ways dissimilar from...
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10/19/2010
AFER puts it briefly: It's right, fair, and decent!
American Foundation for Equal Rights, the rock stars leading the charge to rid the world of the discriminatory dung that is Proposition 8, have filed a response brief to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, addressing why, exactly, Judge...
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09/30/2010
From wedding to retirement plans: Maggie just has ideas about all milestones, huh?
This speculation/activist view of the court comes from our ol' two step partner Maggie Gallagher: "How could Judge Walker exhibit such gross bias and deliver such an injudicious opinion? The answer appears to be, in part, that it was his...
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09/08/2010
'Not appealing': Both Jerry Brown and history's Prop 8 viewpoint
CA AG's Office: Prop 8 Appeal "Would Be Frivolous" [Poliglot] ***UPDATE: Latest: Nobody's gonna forcibly tie Brown, Schwarzenegger to an appeals court chair [G-A-Y]
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09/02/2010
Video: So if Boxer used unconstitutional means to win, would 'the people' have spoken then too?
Carly Fiorina courts the evangelicals on the Christian Broadcasting Network: "Well the people of California have spoken very clearly on this issue. Fortunately, the decision by a single judge, is the first in what will be a long, multi-step legal...
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Video: In audition for role of Boxer, Carly uses Prop
Carly Fiorina (R) wants to take Barbara Boxer's (D) U.S. Senate seat. A seat that would force gays to seat their own behinds in the back of society's bus: Boxer is a lock-solid vote against DOMA, not to mention any...
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08/31/2010
PJI seeks strong arm to crunch staunch spines
The Pacific Justice Institute, in a naked attempt to remedy the matter of whether the Proposition 8 proponents even have standing to file their 9th Circuit appeal, is trying to force California's Attorney General and Governor to step in and...
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Video: The biggest star of our 'archaic time'
[YT: goldderby] Too bad he can't be good looking, too.
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08/23/2010
Alliance-defying Fun: LaBarbera, Barber accuse Prop 8 lawyers of 'legal malpractice'
American For Truth's Peter LaBarbera says the Alliance Defense Fund and fellow Proposition 8 proponents were "namby-pamby" in a defense that constituted "legal malpractice," setting up a situation that he's calling calling Prop8Gate. Liberty Counsel's Matt Barber wanted to see...
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8's Parts: Courts should look to sum, not some
Although Judge Vaughn Walker's federal court decision on Proposition 8 has brought the same-sex marriage conversation into a more prominent light than it's seen in years, there is an ancillary component that's being overlooked. A particularly interesting side argument that,...
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08/19/2010
Contrary to ProtectMarriage's belief/brief, the world hasn't been paused for past 28 years
In ProtectMarriage.com's appeal to the 9th Circuit, the Prop 8 proponents cited a particular 9th Circuit opinion from 1982 as providing further backing for their discriminatory cause: Protect Marriage Appeal And today, writing for Focus on the Family, Prop 8...
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08/16/2010
9th Circuit's late summer 'stay'-cation
Here's the order, which effectively delays the California same-sex marriages scheduled to start on Wednesday: 9th Circuit Ruling on Motion for Stay Pending Appeal AUGUST 16, 2010 “Appellants’ motion for a stay of the district court’s order of August 4,...
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The National Organization For Marriage: Sore 'winners' whose improprieties have indebted America
Over the weekend, @clarknt67 (G-A-Y friend Scott Wooledge) Tweeted about something we ourselves have mentioned on a few occasions: NOM's complete lack of concern for the 47.76% of California voters who opposed Proposition 8. And in a two word response,...
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08/12/2010
#Prop 8 Decision: Stay -- away (as of 8/18)!
We've yet to see the decision, but we just got an official press release from Freedom To Marry who confidently states: Judge Vaughn Walker has issued his decision regarding the stay order. And it's --- GOOD FOR LOVE!!. THE STAY...
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08/11/2010
Conservatives are so right -- Vaughn Walker does have history of liberal activism
Liberal activist that went against his, that is: 11/9/89, Newhouse News Service: 11/17/89, The AP: 5/25/84, UPI: 2/21/88, Guy Wright, Hearst News columnist: *** *RELATED: Judge Walker's Prop 8 decision
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08/10/2010
Guns & coffee cups not the only Props on 'Law & Order:LA' set
An upcoming episode of the "Law & Order" Los Angeles spinoff will feature a Prop 8 storyline. This from AfterElton: Executive producer Rene Balcer spoke to AfterElton.com about how the show will handle the contentious issue. Said Balcer, "One of...
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08/09/2010
Pinning a tall tale on Democratic donkeys
We are so sick of seeing variations on this line pop up in conservative commentaries: A federal judge in San Francisco ruled Wednesday that President Obama is a bigot. And not just the president. Joe Biden as well, and Hillary...
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08/04/2010
Stains don't need polish -- they need Pelosis
“I am extremely encouraged by the ruling today, which found that Proposition 8 violated both the due process and equal protection clauses of the U.S. Constitution. Proposition 8 has taken away individual rights and freedoms, and is a stain upon...
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